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03-17-2009, 07:59 PM
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Re: Pastor takes in child killer
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Yes, the pastor is doing the Christian thing.
If the people of the town don't want him to live there, they should work on changing the laws so that similar criminals aren't released.
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Would you be so cavalier if you lived next door and had small children?
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03-17-2009, 09:37 PM
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Re: Pastor takes in child killer
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Would you be so cavalier if you lived next door and had small children?
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Know what's scary? Look up the sex offender registry for your neighborhood! THAT is the stuff of nightmares!!!
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03-18-2009, 08:38 AM
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Re: Pastor takes in child killer
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Know what's scary? Look up the sex offender registry for your neighborhood! THAT is the stuff of nightmares!!!
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I actually did that a couple of years ago right after we moved into our neighborhood. You are correct it is scary.
We live just outside the city limits of a bedroom community outside of Nashville. It is very middle class with lots of kids, etc. My little subdivision only has about 40 homes but down the main road that goes from our subdivision the 2 miles to town there are several other subdivisions.
While my little subdivision had no sex offenders the surrounding ones literally less than a mile away had somewhere between five and ten if memory serves me correct. I was shocked.
A few years ago when my daughter was staying in Philadelphia for a few months she checked the sex offender registry for the apartment address she was staying at and there were hundreds of sex offenders within a very small radius. Scary.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-18-2009, 11:32 AM
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Re: Pastor takes in child killer
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Know what's scary? Look up the sex offender registry for your neighborhood! THAT is the stuff of nightmares!!!
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Oh my goodness, you are so right! I looked up the list a few months back and I could Not believe how many lived within a 25 mile radius and the even scary thing is they looked normal. We just never know.
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03-17-2009, 10:20 PM
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Re: Pastor takes in child killer
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Would you be so cavalier if you lived next door and had small children?
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I'm not being cavalier, but what's the guy supposed to do? The state released him. He needs a job and a place to live.
And if I did live next door to him, I'd be aware of the issue and never let my children out of my sight.
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03-19-2009, 11:24 AM
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Re: Pastor takes in child killer
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I'm not being cavalier, but what's the guy supposed to do? The state released him. He needs a job and a place to live.
And if I did live next door to him, I'd be aware of the issue and never let my children out of my sight.
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The pastor's first responsibility is not to the church or the community; it's to care for his family. Period. Endangering them in this way is beyond my comprehension. If it were just the pastor and his wife, I could understand--MAYBE.
This story puts my stomach in knots.
I believe we should do the Christian thing. I believe we should reach for the unreachable. However, common sense DOES come into play somewhere.
The pastor could rent a small house, for instance, in a different area, and stay with the man for the two months, and leave his wife and children safely at home. If it's that important to him, then he should minister and protect at the same time. Bringing the man into his home, and into a neighborhood with small children is just stupid. There are other options, and other ways to help.
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03-19-2009, 12:40 PM
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Re: Pastor takes in child killer
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
The pastor's first responsibility is not to the church or the community; it's to care for his family. Period. Endangering them in this way is beyond my comprehension. If it were just the pastor and his wife, I could understand--MAYBE.
This story puts my stomach in knots.
I believe we should do the Christian thing. I believe we should reach for the unreachable. However, common sense DOES come into play somewhere.
The pastor could rent a small house, for instance, in a different area, and stay with the man for the two months, and leave his wife and children safely at home. If it's that important to him, then he should minister and protect at the same time. Bringing the man into his home, and into a neighborhood with small children is just stupid. There are other options, and other ways to help.
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I would agree that the pastor bringing the ex-convict into his house with children is not a good idea. But I still think we need some compassion for people that have been released from prison. They need somewhere to live. And everyone saying not by me doesn't address the issue.
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