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Old 04-11-2007, 03:27 PM
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I think husbands blame wives like Adam blamed Eve. In societies like Islamic societies the women get blamed for most everything. In greater American society, I think that is not really true since most social service agencies are geared to help women and children. In the UPC I think women are blamed more for male sexual immorality, hence the view that women who wear make-up are like Jezebel, etc.
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I was speaking about how a woman can be called a whore, but a man can get up and keep doing his thang. That has never changed, IMO.

It's also ridiculous to blame the "UPC women" on a man's sexual promiscuity. As I am sure men are to blame in many ways, but I've talked with a lot of women that are not doing their job correctly. They can't stand around crying in their milk and saying, "I was so tired, kids, etc." That's women in general, not just UPC women.
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I was speaking about how a woman can be called a whore, but a man can get up and keep doing his thang. That has never changed, IMO.

It's also ridiculous to blame the "UPC women" on a man's sexual promiscuity. As I am sure men are to blame in many ways, but I've talked with a lot of women that are not doing their job correctly. They can't stand around crying in their milk and saying, "I was so tired, kids, etc." That's women in general, not just UPC women.
Oh, so much to say here, but I will limit it to just this one stupid thing.

A friend of mine is going through a divorce and her husband said he's going to blame her for him committing adultery since she won't be with him now.

He is abusive with her and they are getting a divorce.........yet it's going to be her fault that he's going to have to sin?
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:43 PM
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Oh, so much to say here, but I will limit it to just this one stupid thing.

A friend of mine is going through a divorce and her husband said he's going to blame her for him committing adultery since she won't be with him now.

He is abusive with her and they are getting a divorce.........yet it's going to be her fault that he's going to have to sin?
Exactly. The ONLY reason God gave for divorce was adultery. Looks like he did that....not her...
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Exactly. The ONLY reason God gave for divorce was adultery. Looks like he did that....not her...
Well, he hasn't yet, but thinks she still needs to tend to him during this divorce preceedings and because she won't he is saying she is going to cause him to have to commit adultery.

How about a little self-control?
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Well, he hasn't yet, but thinks she still needs to tend to him during this divorce preceedings and because she won't he is saying she is going to cause him to have to commit adultery.

How about a little self-control?
You have got to be kidding!!!!
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Well, he hasn't yet, but thinks she still needs to tend to him during this divorce preceedings and because she won't he is saying she is going to cause him to have to commit adultery.

How about a little self-control?
True.

What do you mean abuse when you say he has abused her?
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True.

What do you mean abuse when you say he has abused her?
Mental/emotional by belittling her, physical by hitting and pushing/shoving her.
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Mental/emotional by belittling her, physical by hitting and pushing/shoving her.
I see. Just wondering.
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True.

What do you mean abuse when you say he has abused her?
That's what I was commenting on. I'm not giving up anything for a man that abuses me physically.
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Oh, so much to say here, but I will limit it to just this one stupid thing.

A friend of mine is going through a divorce and her husband said he's going to blame her for him committing adultery since she won't be with him now.

He is abusive with her and they are getting a divorce.........yet it's going to be her fault that he's going to have to sin?
Well, that does hit close to home. So, we have two sides. The women that call me are confessing they are lazy and you are getting calls of abuse.

I can totally see that there are two sides. It is a shame.

When a man abuses a woman and she finds comfort in another, well, I can't blame her, unless her husband straightens up his act and does a turn around there is no hope in that situation.
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