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Old 03-23-2009, 08:51 AM
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That is pretty much how I see it.
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That is pretty much how I see it.
So you believe in a material covering needing to be on a woman's head when praying or prophesying? I would not have guess this, I would have thought you and your wife viewed this in the traditional UPC interpretation.

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So you believe in a material covering needing to be on a woman's head when praying or prophesying? I would not have guess this, I would have thought you and your wife viewed this in the traditional UPC interpretation.

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I believe Cor. 11 is primarily discussing headship, symbolized by literal veiling and unveiling. The natural covering of hair is only a supporting argument.

I have not mentioned my wife's views.
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I believe Cor. 11 is primarily discussing headship, symbolized by literal veiling and unveiling. The natural covering of hair is only a supporting argument.

I have not mentioned my wife's views.
However, you would say that the literal, material veil is not necessary in places where it would not be "comely" (ie. western society)? However, you perhaps would say it would be wise for Christians in India to still keep this custom, since it has a significance to that society's view of modesty?

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However, you would say that the literal, material veil is not necessary in places where it would not be "comely" (ie. western society)?
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However, you perhaps would say it would be wise for Christians in India to still keep this custom, since it has a significance to that society's view of modesty?

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I am not so sure.
Do you not fear that not having this issue settled could cause your wife and daughter to be disobeying the 1 Cor 11 passage, if it is speaking of a material covering, and they are not wearing one?
We have a brother in my assembly who claims to believe in the material covering, and I have spoken with him before, and I reminded him that he was letting his wife go with her head uncovered, and if he believed in the covering so strongly he ought to search it, and decide whether he wants his wife to be the only one with a veil on her head in our assembly, or if he might want to start another assembly.

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