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Old 03-23-2009, 09:27 AM
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Barb,
Your definition of 'showing respect' would be to alter the way I am and I can't do this. Do I love you? Yes. Do I respect you? Yes.

I am tired of apologizing for who I am and the way I react to things. God made me this way and if he truly makes no mistakes then I have a purpose to accomplish.

My purpose may just to make people think about who and what they follow. I cannot be who you think I should be. I DO NOT APO0LOGIZE FOR WHO I AM.

Respectfully,
Rhoni

Is someone else writing as Rhoni?
No certified counselor would write the part in red. Reactions are learned behaviour and shouldn't be blamed on God.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:41 AM
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Is someone else writing as Rhoni?
No certified counselor would write the part in red. Reactions are learned behaviour and shouldn't be blamed on God.
It strikes me when reading this, that we expect so much more from counselors / therapists then we do from anyone else.

Do we expect our medical doctors to never get sick? Dentists to never forget to floss? Mechanic's cars to never break down?

Rhoni's a therapist, yes. But she's also just a person. Like all of us, she is alternately wise and foolish, good and bad, rational and emotional, perceptive and blind....and so on.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:48 AM
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It strikes me when reading this, that we expect so much more from counselors / therapists then we do from anyone else.

Do we expect our medical doctors to never get sick? Dentists to never forget to floss? Mechanic's cars to never break down?

Rhoni's a therapist, yes. But she's also just a person. Like all of us, she is alternately wise and foolish, good and bad, rational and emotional, perceptive and blind....and so on.
What we do expect is for them to post up to their level of knowledge instead of excusing behaviour.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:55 AM
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What we do expect is for them to post up to their level of knowledge instead of excusing behaviour.
Like some ministers?
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:02 AM
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Like some ministers?
ya suppose? Isn't that what Rhoni et al continually rant and rave about.
What's good for the gander is good for the goose.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:23 AM
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What we do expect is for them to post up to their level of knowledge instead of excusing behaviour.
You say "we", do you claim to speak for everyone?

I expect that Rhoni is human. I think that she most likely has to play the strong counselor role all day. I expect that she needs a place to be weak. Whether or not the best place for that is this forum, doesn't really matter.

Personally, I have much more respect for people who can admit their failings, then those who are afraid of what people will think, and so constantly wear a facade of strength and perfection.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:38 AM
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You say "we", do you claim to speak for everyone?

I expect that Rhoni is human. I think that she most likely has to play the strong counselor role all day. I expect that she needs a place to be weak. Whether or not the best place for that is this forum, doesn't really matter.

Personally, I have much more respect for people who can admit their failings, then those who are afraid of what people will think, and so constantly wear a facade of strength and perfection.
Did you read my post at all? It had nothing to do with admitting failings other than to question blaming faulty reactions on God.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:50 AM
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Did you read my post at all? It had nothing to do with admitting failings other than to question blaming faulty reactions on God.
God created her, a human being, and allowed her to be born into a sinful fallen world. A world in which no human being is capable of perfection or sinlessness.

This does not mean that I believe that God is to blame for all our weaknesses, it simply means that I can understand her reasoning and feelings of frustration.

Our character and personality, is a crazy mixture of nature and nurture. Somethings are so ingrained in us that they are almost impossible to change. But isn't that what a faith walk is? Living with our weaknesses and hoping and striving for something better?

Maybe it's because I've been there, that I see this so clearly. Rhoni isn't looking for answers. She isn't looking for someone to fix things, or tell her what she needs to do, or even point out things that she already knows deep down inside.

I think she's simply looking for validation. Someone to say "I know it's hard. I know it's painful. I know it's a struggle. It's ok to feel frustrated. It's ok to want to give up sometimes. It's ok to have issues. You don't have to have everything all figured out. It's natural to question and blame God when your hurting and it doesn't make any sense. He's a big God, He can take it."
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:56 AM
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Re: Changing Denominations

Sounds nice - but blaming my reactions to situations on God is a copout.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:28 AM
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It strikes me when reading this, that we expect so much more from counselors / therapists then we do from anyone else.

Do we expect our medical doctors to never get sick? Dentists to never forget to floss? Mechanic's cars to never break down?

Rhoni's a therapist, yes. But she's also just a person. Like all of us, she is alternately wise and foolish, good and bad, rational and emotional, perceptive and blind....and so on.
Michlow, A valid and observant analysis!

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What we do expect is for them to post up to their level of knowledge instead of excusing behaviour.
I excuse no behavior and you Mr. Buillwinkle need to come out from behind your psuedo name and post like a man! I do not excuse or justify my behavior. I am who I am and do not apologize for that or my thoughts on numerous subjects.

Blessings, Rhoni
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