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03-24-2009, 01:07 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee
I recently heard of an evangelist teaching that beyond the tithe, saints are required to give an offering of 5% of their increase. His scriptures for this come from Exodus 30:13-15. What say ye?
Exd 30:13 This they shall give, every one that passeth among them that are numbered, half a shekel after the shekel of the sanctuary: (a shekel [is] twenty gerahs  an half shekel [shall be] the offering of the LORD.
Exd 30:14 Every one that passeth among them that are numbered, from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering unto the LORD.
Exd 30:15 The rich shall not give more, and the poor shall not give less than half a shekel, when [they] give an offering unto the LORD, to make an atonement for your souls.
He stated that the shekel of the sanctuary represented the tithe, and so therefore half of the tithe (an half shekel) should be given as an offering.
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I was taught that for years; however, I have grown to understand that "giving" cannot be mandated.
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03-24-2009, 01:09 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
I was taught that for years; however, I have grown to understand that "giving" cannot be mandated.
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 AMEN! Just like holiness cannot be legislated. Holiness is taking on the nature and character of Christ.
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03-24-2009, 01:19 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
 AMEN! Just like holiness cannot be legislated. Holiness is taking on the nature and character of Christ.
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I doubt God would wear makeup and ear rings.
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03-24-2009, 01:30 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4
I doubt God would wear makeup and ear rings.
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Maybe not, but the Bible speaks of Him putting rings in the ears of His people.
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03-24-2009, 01:40 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
Maybe not, but the Bible speaks of Him putting rings in the ears of His people.
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Really.....? Post the scripture! Here's a scripture were God tells Israel to remove their jewelery. Whenever God received Israel, after they committing some whoredom, God always demanded that they remove their jewelery!
Exodus 3:
The LORD had said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites, 'You are impossible to deal with. If I were with you, I might destroy you at any time. Now take off your jewelry, and I'll decide what to do with you.'"
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03-24-2009, 01:44 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4
Really.....? Post the scripture! Here's a scripture were God tells Israel to remove their jewelery. Whenever God received Israel, after they committing some whoredom, God always demanded that they remove their jewelery!
Exodus 3:
The LORD had said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites, 'You are impossible to deal with. If I were with you, I might destroy you at any time. Now take off your jewelry, and I'll decide what to do with you.'"
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I prefer alternative scriptures where the prodigal put a ring on his son's finger, and the Lord promised a crown to those who overcome.
I would like to see scriptures and the context whereof you speak because this was not a consistent policy or behavior of Christ.
Blessings, Rhoni
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03-24-2009, 01:52 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4
Really.....? Post the scripture! Here's a scripture were God tells Israel to remove their jewelery. Whenever God received Israel, after they committing some whoredom, God always demanded that they remove their jewelery!
Exodus 3:
The LORD had said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites, 'You are impossible to deal with. If I were with you, I might destroy you at any time. Now take off your jewelry, and I'll decide what to do with you.'"
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Ezekiel 16. God, speaking of Jerusalem:
8Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
9Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
10I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
14And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
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03-24-2009, 01:54 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
Ezekiel 16. Speaking of Jerusalem:
8Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
9Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
10I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
14And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
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*sigh* how beautiful.
Blessings, Rhoni
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03-24-2009, 02:08 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
Ezekiel 16. God, speaking of Jerusalem:
8Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
9Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
10I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
14And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
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In other words, God has no problem with His people wearing jewelry.
Some preachers seem to have that problem but God doesn't.
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03-24-2009, 02:00 PM
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Re: 5% Mandatory Offering Required on top of 10% T
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Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4
Really.....? Post the scripture! Here's a scripture were God tells Israel to remove their jewelery. Whenever God received Israel, after they committing some whoredom, God always demanded that they remove their jewelery!
Exodus 3:
The LORD had said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites, 'You are impossible to deal with. If I were with you, I might destroy you at any time. Now take off your jewelry, and I'll decide what to do with you.'"
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Dude, are you feeling okay? Concerning jewelry, Exodus 3 has the Lord commanding the Israelites to PUT ON jewelry... NOT take it off.
22But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.
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