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We won't be going back to eating doves dung do you think?
Actually, the dove's dung is the root of a plant called the "Star of Bethlehem" that is ground to make bread. It's not really dung from a bird.
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Actually, the dove's dung is the root of a plant called the "Star of Bethlehem" that is ground to make bread. It's not really dung from a bird.
Dove's dung

(2 Kings 6:25) has been generally understood literally. There are instances in history of the dung of pigeons being actually used as food during a famine. Compare also the language of Rabshakeh to the Jews (2 Kings 18:27; Isa. 36:12). This name, however, is applied by the Arabs to different vegetable substances, and there is room for the opinion of those who think that some such substance is here referred to, as, e.g., the seeds of a kind of millet, or a very inferior kind of pulse, or the root of the ornithogalum, i.e., bird-milk, the star-of-Bethlehem.
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(2 Kings 6:25) has been generally understood literally. There are instances in history of the dung of pigeons being actually used as food during a famine. Compare also the language of Rabshakeh to the Jews (2 Kings 18:27; Isa. 36:12). This name, however, is applied by the Arabs to different vegetable substances, and there is room for the opinion of those who think that some such substance is here referred to, as, e.g., the seeds of a kind of millet, or a very inferior kind of pulse, or the root of the ornithogalum, i.e., bird-milk, the star-of-Bethlehem.
The scriptures cited by your source have nothing to do with eating bird poopy. LOL! I will stay with the "Star of Bethlehem".
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ORNITHOGALUM UMBELLATUM, DOVE'S DUNG, STAR-OF-BETHLEHEM is a plant of Northern Africa, Asia Minor and Europe. The bulbs, says Johnson, are very nutritious and form a palatabile and wholesome food when boiled. In the East they are often eaten and were probably the dove's dung mentioned in the Bible.
http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/o/oplant47.html
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The Star of Bethlehem is a bulbous plant nearly allied to the Onion and Garlic.

The leaves are long and narrow and dark green; the flowers, in bloom during April and May, are a brilliant white internally, but with the petals striped with green outside. They expand only in the sunshine.

The bulbs, in common with those of many Liliaceous plants, are edible and nutritious. They were in ancient times eaten, both raw and cooked, as Dioscorides related, and form a palatable and wholesome food when boiled. They are still often eaten in the East, being roasted like chestnuts, and Linnaeus and others considered that they were probably the 'Dove's Dung' mentioned in the Second Book of Kings, vi. 25, as being sold at a high price during the siege of Samaria by the King of Syria, when 'the fourth part of a cab of dove's dung was sold for five pieces of silver.' The Greek name, Ornithogalum, signifies the 'birds' milk flower.' The plains of Syria and Palestine are sheeted in spring with the white flowers of a species of Star of Bethlehem, the bulbs of which are used as food, and are still called by the Arabs, 'Dove's Dung,' a name in common use among them for vegetable substances. Bochart tells us that the Arabs give this name to a moss that grows on trees and stony ground, and also to a pulse or pea, which appears to have been common in India. Large quantities of the bulb, it is stated, were parched and dried and stored at Cairo and Damascus, being much used during journeys, and especially by the great pilgrim caravans to Mecca.
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The scriptures cited by your source have nothing to do with eating bird poopy. LOL! I will stay with the "Star of Bethlehem".

I'll stay with the Star of Bethlehem too, I wasn't argueing with you, I just showed you where I got my source from.
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Dove's dung

(2 Kings 6:25) has been generally understood literally. There are instances in history of the dung of pigeons being actually used as food during a famine. Compare also the language of Rabshakeh to the Jews (2 Kings 18:27; Isa. 36:12). This name, however, is applied by the Arabs to different vegetable substances, and there is room for the opinion of those who think that some such substance is here referred to, as, e.g., the seeds of a kind of millet, or a very inferior kind of pulse, or the root of the ornithogalum, i.e., bird-milk, the star-of-Bethlehem.
In the Apocryphal Book of Tobit, the prophet Tobit suffers an unfortunate incident in which he is blinded by dove's dung (some translate "sparrow" here) falling into his eyes. The cure ends up being to have his son marry the women who had already had seven husbands but had all died.

This makes sense when you think about it.
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