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03-25-2009, 10:13 PM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
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TKB, I am praying for you and I do mean that seriously. I pray that you reconsider the way that you have taken and truly believe in the Christ of Scripture. The very one it tells us is coming again.
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Please, do not use sacred things like prayer as a weapon against another man's faith.
Bro. Anderson, if you were sincere about being concerned for me, you'd have proven what you claim is my error.
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03-25-2009, 11:20 PM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
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Please, do not use sacred things like prayer as a weapon against another man's faith.
Bro. Anderson, if you were sincere about being concerned for me, you'd have proven what you claim is my error.
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No that takes work, he would rather just blast you with insults. 
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03-25-2009, 11:44 PM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
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Hey EB! How about you and me going a round? Do you really believe Jesus fulfilled ALL of Matthew 24 in or about the year 70 A.D.?
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03-25-2009, 11:58 PM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
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Hey EB! How about you and me going a round? Do you really believe Jesus fulfilled ALL of Matthew 24 in or about the year 70 A.D.? |
Yes sir.
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03-26-2009, 12:14 AM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Yes sir.
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When did the following happen?
Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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03-26-2009, 12:19 AM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
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When did the following happen?
Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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Come to the Eschatology thread
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03-26-2009, 12:01 AM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
I think the reason this debate failed was because the lack of understanding and agreement with the debators from the outset.
Prax tried to reign it in but it was already off to a bad start.
There has to be clear precise rules of format. If not it becomes speechs and not a discussion.
Maybe you brethren could agree on some format and start all over again?
Allow Prax to moderate to the degree he could demand you to answer the questions put to you. And if a debator just started posting material not already discussed he could call them on it?
Both of you men are brilliant men neither are afraid of what you believe and no doubt able to defend it. So why not come to an agreement OFF public eye of the forum and start over?
Shalom. AND Maranatha!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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03-26-2009, 12:05 AM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
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I think the reason this debate failed was because the lack of understanding and agreement with the debators from the outset.
Prax tried to reign it in but it was already off to a bad start.
There has to be clear precise rules of format. If not it becomes speechs and not a discussion.
Maybe you brethren could agree on some format and start all over again?
Allow Prax to moderate to the degree he could demand you to answer the questions put to you. And if a debator just started posting material not already discussed he could call them on it?
Both of you men are brilliant men neither are afraid of what you believe and no doubt able to defend it. So why not come to an agreement OFF public eye of the forum and start over?
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I don't think it was a lack of understanding Elder, it wasn't suppposed to be an interview.
Thank you Elder Epley for your confidence in both these men.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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03-26-2009, 12:20 AM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Anderson Vs Burk
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I don't think it was a lack of understanding Elder, it wasn't suppposed to be an interview.
Thank you Elder Epley for your confidence in both these men.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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In public debates and I have been in 5 of those. Here is the most used format remember these are public speaking debates not written but it could be used the same.
1. There MUST of necessity be a Proposition, this is where this debate failed at the outset neither of these men agreed on a proposition. For example:
Be it resolved the scriptures teach Jesus will literally return to earth catch away his church, resurrect the dead, judge the wicked.
Elder Andersen would affrim
Elder Burk would deny
Thus the discussion is defined.
2. Be it resolved the scriptures teach Jesus have already returned to earth in 70AD and there will be NO future resurrection or judgment of the wicked.
I am not suggesting the affirmatives I am only saying to keep a debate in order propositions are a MUST.
THEN
An agreement on how many questions are to be asked and answered note NOT arguments but specific questions.
Example:
1. If the Lord returned in 70 AD then please explain Heb.10:25 is it binding today since they were to assemble 'as they see the day approaching?'
Then the question MUST be answered.
For 600 word which I think is good 2 or 3 would be the most questions they could ask. Yet it would still leave room for affrimative material and rebuttal arguments.
I would never debate without a proposition. Sometimes the hardest part of the debate takes place before the debate agreeing on the propositions.
Do NOT sign anything you do not personally believe.
My thoughts.
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