Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Just do like Epley and Anderson and condemn them to the Pit!!!

Not much love there but it is efficient!

I guess....

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I do not think either Brother would fell that way. I like them personally and they seem to like me. I do pray for them(that is an honest statement) I think they are good guys but this heresy will cause them to be lost. I am NOT rejoicing over the fact.

I'd have to say that that I just don't understand the extremity of the judgment here. I don't agree with the "Apostolic Full Preterist" view because no one has ever been able to to tell me, "Lo, here is (or was) Christ..." without taking me through their closets and secret rooms.

The implications of this can certainly be huge and I think that's where Steve Epley rises to the challenge. But the AFPs aren't offering a "false Christ," in my view; they simply haven't offered anything at all.

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I'd have to say that that I just don't understand the extremity of the judgment here. I don't agree with the "Apostolic Full Preterist" view because no one has ever been able to to tell me, "Lo, here is (or was) Christ..." without taking me through their closets and secret rooms.

The implications of this can certainly be huge and I think that's where Steve Epley rises to the challenge. But the AFPs aren't offering a "false Christ," in my view; they simply haven't offered anything at all.

What we are seeing with men of his stripe is that they are pulling out the swords and slaying anyone who does not agree with them. It is the old pharisees attitude again.

I asked those futurists, in another thread, if they felt the FP's were lost and he said yes. They have made this salvational.

No wonder Paul wrote:

1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

I have come to the point that I don't want to hear any of it preached. Give me acts 2:38.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

What we are seeing with men of his stripe is that they are pulling out the swords and slaying anyone who does not agree with them. It is the old pharisees attitude again.

I asked those futurists, in another thread, if they felt the FP's were lost and he said yes. They have made this salvational.

No wonder Paul wrote:

1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

I have come to the point that I don't want to hear any of it preached. Give me acts 2:38.

The Crucified is the Coming King if He is not returning again He is a liar and a fraud. His return is the Hope of the saints no return no hope.