No Pre-existing Son... Before Christ's Birth?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by CC1

I think it is clear that Stephen Eureka is an apostate and should be burned at the stake. Er.....I mean excommunicated......er......I mean his church should excommunicate him.

Next he will be trying to say that Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God the Father!

LOL!

While I do not affirm multiple beings in the Godhead, it is of great interest that it can be said, the Father (being God), and the Son (also being God), communicated one to the other.

Has all the communication ceased, now that Jesus is glorified? Does the Son of God even now know the hour of His return?

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

LOL!

While I do not affirm multiple beings in the Godhead, it is of great interest that it can be said, the Father (being God), and the Son (also being God), communicated one to the other.
Has all the communication ceased, now that Jesus is glorified? Does the Son of God even now know the hour of His return?

God had a Son! He is the very expression of the divine made flesh. This man was a actual man who worships, feels, thinks and prays yet his very being and existance is tied to the Almighty in which he has relationship. Does that make two Gods? No as anything that is divine is not his but given him by the Father. Is Jesus God? Yes by his very nature of existance. Is he man. Yes, by his very nature of his experience and existance as well... God manifested in flesh! He is the perfection of man and God coexisting perfectly in that which we call the Messiah.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

God had a Son! He is the very expression of the divine made flesh. This man was a actual man who worships, feels, thinks and prays yet his very being and existance is tied to the Almighty in which he has relationship. Does that make two Gods? No as anything that is divine is not his but given him by the Father. Is Jesus God? Yes by his very nature of existance. Is he man. Yes, by his very nature of his experience and existance as well... God manifested in flesh! He is the perfection of man and God coexisting perfectly in that which we call the Messiah.

Amen.

When I say I find it of "interest that it can be said, the Father (being God), and the Son (also being God), communicated one to the other", I understand this as more than humanity speaking to divinity.

It really is a mystery even from a Oneness perspective. We have Jesus, who in is God almighty - born as man, communicating with the Father who is God almighty, not born as a man.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Amen.

When I say I find it of "interest that it can be said, the Father (being God), and the Son (also being God), communicated one to the other", I understand this as more than humanity speaking to divinity.

It really is a mystery even from a Oneness perspective. We have Jesus, who in is God almighty - born as man, communicating with the Father who is God almighty, not born as a man.

I don't think it is a mystery. I think it's the same "person" but in a different way of existing. 1 Person having two beings if you will. Through the humanity he has though a complete human psyche. So on a psychological level he is someone other than God.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't think it is a mystery. I think it's the same "person" but in a different way of existing. 1 Person having two beings if you will. Through the humanity he has though a complete human psyche. So on a psychological level he is someone other than God.

Yeah, what you said. It still has to do with the mystery of the incarnation - IMHO

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

God had a Son! He is the very expression of the divine made flesh. This man was a actual man who worships, feels, thinks and prays yet his very being and existance is tied to the Almighty in which he has relationship. Does that make two Gods? No as anything that is divine is not his but given him by the Father. Is Jesus God? Yes by his very nature of existance. Is he man. Yes, by his very nature of his experience and existance as well... God manifested in flesh! He is the perfection of man and God coexisting perfectly in that which we call the Messiah.

Very good, Bro. LUKE2447!



Lord we lift your name on high

Lord we love to sing your praises

I'm so glad you're in my life

I'm so glad you came to save us.



You came from heaven to earth

to show the way

From the earth to the cross

our debt to pay.

From the cross to the grave

From the grave to the sky

Lord, we lift your name on high.

It seems God drew a road map for us, then took the time to
travel it so there woud be no doubt how to get to where He was!
Wanted to make sure we didn't get lost along the Way. People get
lost when they stray from the straight and narrow path HE trod. He
passed the "instuctions" on to chosen men He trusted to pass on
the road-map. The Apostles.

Not everyone will follow instructions or look at a "map". They feel
they know the way by themselves. Sometimes they have to get to
the "middle of no-where" before they are willing to acknowledge they
are LOST. Pride will keep some from asking for directions or instruct-
ions. Can't admit they are lost or on the wrong road. After all, they
don't need any help. Sometimes little immature children will "stray"
off a little distance from their mother and when they don't see her,
panic starts in and they will start screaming, "Momma".

We need to all "Humble ourselves under the Mighty Hand of God!

No offence to anyone, just my thoughts.

Falla39