I don't know I got to an apostolic church but our sunday school materials are UPC out of hazelwood mo..so go figure
Most, or many, independent Apostolic churches came out of the UPCI. Most of them quit over holiness, not new birth doctrines. Thus they can use the SS material.
Most of the differences between the two organizations was in the way they viewed salvation, whether a person needed to just recieve the Spirit, whether or not baptism was essential, the need of tongues and so forth.
There are some good books out there on this subject by some of the origional men.
Just to think of a few:
Winds of God,
Both books on the Urshan brothers,
Coal miner preacher
Most, or many, independent Apostolic churches came out of the UPCI. Most of them quit over holiness, not new birth doctrines. Thus they can use the SS material.
Most of the differences between the two organizations was in the way they viewed salvation, whether a person needed to just recieve the Spirit, whether or not baptism was essential, the need of tongues and so forth.
There are some good books out there on this subject by some of the origional men.
Just to think of a few:
Winds of God,
Both books on the Urshan brothers,
Coal miner preacher
We can't forget Thomas Fudge's book, "Christianity Without the Cross"! That book created an epiphany for me!
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Fudge did have some good data, I just disagree with the conclusion he came to.
It is the most academic expose' of the history of the UPCI to date. I got a little squirmy at some of his conclusions, but the documented history of the merger was spot on!
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It is the most academic expose' of the history of the UPCI to date. I got a little squirmy at some of his conclusions, but the documented history of the merger was spot on!
Doesn't that "bias" him though? A true historian should present the facts and let us draw the conclusions
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It is the most academic expose' of the history of the UPCI to date. I got a little squirmy at some of his conclusions, but the documented history of the merger was spot on!
Fudge did have some good data, I just disagree with the conclusion he came to.
I was left with the impression that he pulled his "punches." He describes the chief "antagonist" or the "bad guy" from the perspective of his storyline (LE Westberg) in terms that are almost flattering and certainly respectful.
He didn't really offer a conclusion of "who was right." He just offered a narrative on one side of a debate that he thought had been neglected. And did so in a way that didn't really antagonize the other side. (Just my perspective ).
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