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Old 04-15-2009, 04:40 PM
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Re: Is There Valid Law Authorizing Income Taxes?

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I'm currently finishing up my lesson for class tonight, and cooking dinner, so I really don't have time to watch the videos. I have managed to get through 2 and the first part of 3, albeit having to pause a lot. I would think you could have just responded with the basic idea, Ron. It has nothing to do with "not caring." Of course I care that the government takes too much of our money. Jeff got a bonus a month or so ago, and if I recall properly, the government took 40% of it, right off the top.



You're being silly by not responding to legitimate questions about the topic you started. If you can't really explain it, and need us to watch the video so it can be adequately explained, then just say so.

So far, what I've gathered is that these people feel the corporate tax is legal, but the individual income tax is not, and that neither tax falls under the guidelines for direct or indirect taxation, being that a direct tax must be apportioned, and an indirect tax must be uniform throughout the United States.

I agree that the power the IRS possesses seems astoundingly unchecked and ominous. I just don't see how refusing to pay what they demand is going to help change that. I do see how a refusal to pay can bring harm upon my family, reputation and person.

They are not saying that tax, in general, is illegal. They are saying that the way the law is being currently applied is illegal. (out of line with the Constitution and the 16th Amendment.)
Miss B, without having watched the whole set of videos you are very astute &
explained it well.

Miss B, I wasn't trying to be mean or rude in saying you didn't view the videos, they do cover a lot of info in the series.
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Old 04-15-2009, 05:01 PM
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Re: Is There Valid Law Authorizing Income Taxes?

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Miss B, without having watched the whole set of videos you are very astute &
explained it well.

Miss B, I wasn't trying to be mean or rude in saying you didn't view the videos, they do cover a lot of info in the series.
But they don't cover tax law. Youtube isn't case law.



6-4.000 CRIMINAL TAX CASE PROCEDURES
6-4.010 The Federal Tax Enforcement Program
6-4.011 Criminal Tax Manual and Other Tax Division Publications
6-4.110 IRS Administrative Investigations
6-4.120 Grand Jury Investigations -- Generally
6-4.121 IRS Requests to Initiate Grand Jury Investigations
6-4.122 United States Attorney Initiated Grand Jury Investigations
6-4.123 Joint United States Attorney-IRS Request to Expand Tax Grand Jury Investigations
6-4.124 Grand Jury -- Drug Task Force (OCDETF) Requests
6-4.125 IRS Transmittal of Reports and Exhibits from Grand Jury Investigations
6-4.126 Effect of DOJ Termination of Grand Jury Investigation and IRS Access to Grand Jury Material
6-4.130 Search Warrants
6-4.200 Tax Division Jurisdiction and Procedures
6-4.210 Filing False Tax Returns -- Mail Fraud Charges or Mail Fraud Predicates for RICO
6-4.211 Standards of Review
6-4.212 Categories of Matters Reviewed
6-4.213 Review of Direct Referrals
6-4.214 Conferences
6-4.215 Expedited Review
6-4.216 Priority Review
6-4.217 On-Site Review
6-4.218 Authorizations and Declinations
6-4.219 Assistance of Criminal Enforcement Section Personnel
6-4.240 United States Attorney's Responsibilities
6-4.241 Review of CRLs
6-4.242 Recommendation Following a Grand Jury Investigation
6-4.243 Review of Direct Referral Matters
6-4.244 Review of Noncomplex Matters
6-4.245 Request to Decline Prosecution
6-4.246 Request to Dismiss Prosecution
6-4.247 United States Attorney Protest of Declination
6-4.248 Status Reports
6-4.249 Return of Reports and Exhibits
6-4.270 Criminal Division Responsibility
6-4.310 Major Count Policy/Plea Agreements
6-4.311 Application of Major Count Policy in Sentencing Guideline Cases
6-4.320 Nolo Contendere Pleas
6-4.330 Alford Pleas
6-4.340 Sentencing
6-4.350 Costs of Prosecution
6-4.360 Compromise of Criminal Liability/Civil Settlement


some more legal info over your head.

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