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Old 04-12-2007, 01:52 PM
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If you could hear Bro.Doug White's message on the "Channel of the Anointing" you would understand. Maybe we could get him to post his notes.
From the head down......
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:07 PM
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Exactly

Gen 48:14 And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it on Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left on Manasseh's head, crossing his hands. For Manasseh was the first-born.
Ah ha you found a scripture for it.

Actually, you all have made some good points.
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:35 PM
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Its not a UPC tradition that I know.We did this when I attended Charismatic meetings as well.I know that the laying on of hands is biblical as is the annointing with oil and prayer for the sick by the elders of the church.I understand that the raising of hands toward a person that you are praying for came from Wimbers group out in Ca.Certainly it did not come from the Catholics or the Baptist or even Methodist groups as I have been to their meetings.The Episcopalian group who we visited a few times did this and also held hands and prayed for each other.They actually believed and taught that when someone becomes confirmed which is in their religons language the proclamation of becoming a Christian before the church family and hands are laid on you that you will speak in other tongues.I don't know if it was just particular to this group of Episcopalians but it was a nice service and very much like a pentecostal service.

You want to know how this got started in Wimber's Church. I heard him tell it out of his own mouth.

They (Vineyard) were renting a school gym and the AC didn't work, and touching people made everyone hot and sweaty, so during a healing/signs&wonders conference when they got a bunch of visitors they saw the locals do it and people were blessed so they started doing, believing that God was up to something new.

Wimber laughed and said only if the people around the world doing this now understood why were doing it. LOL!
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:32 PM
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I was once licensed in an organization (CoJCPF) where the Presiding Bishop taught that you had to "pour" oil on a person's head, not just put a dab on their forehead. He did not use a large amount, just held the bottle of olive oil above their head and let a few drops pour out on then.

He also taught that you had to use fermented wine for communion and told me he was going to take some home made wine to a church in a "dry" county in Kentucky so they could do communion properly. I told him he might get arrested for bootlegging or rum running. He said he would just tell them it wasn't wine but it was "the blood of Jesus." I told him they might lock him up for something else if he did that.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:35 PM
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Members of the prayer team in our Vineyard church were warned to be very careful in putting their hands on people. We were told to ask permission first before touching anyone and even then be very careful how and where you put your hands on someone.
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:35 AM
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Members of the prayer team in our Vineyard church were warned to be very careful in putting their hands on people. We were told to ask permission first before touching anyone and even then be very careful how and where you put your hands on someone.
Perhaps that is in reference and deference to the scripture that encourages us to "lay hands on no man suddenly"!
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