Tattoos-What do ya think?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Really? On what do you base your judgement?

Are you saying no minister is qualified to comment until his own children have passed the age of 20?

MOW's covenant of earrings and NO tattoos is unbiblical, and unwise.

Since you reason MOW's sons are grown, older than mine, do you suggest I follow MOW's lead? It seems whatever he tried to do failed. If you go back and re-read MOW's post, MOW tells us his boys BROKE said covenant with their pastor and father. In view of this, I should still follow his lead? Again, because his children reached the age of 20 before mine?

I don't understand how a failed compromise of a contract (which carried no dire consequences that we know of) can be a template we all should rally behind. MOW "the boys' father" thought tattoos were unacceptable to him. MOW makes a covenant with the boys. This covenant states earrings may be worn at the committing to the contract only if tattoos are not worn.

This is a compromise which failed to deter the boys from breaking a contract with their father and pastor.

I don't need 20 year old children to understand a flawed premise.

I was raised around individuals who had parents who smoked reefers with them in attempts to deter them from doing harder substances with other people. It didn't work with any of them.

If the father didn't wear earrings himself, to allow his children to wear them to deter the wearing of a more permanent item, (that he doesn't wear), sends a message the father's laws are subject to change through pressure.

So, do you believe all ministers and councilors must have raised their children to adulthood to be able to judge between a right and a wrong concerning their own children?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

The point is someone who has not raised their kids to adulthood does not have the experience to know what works and what doesn't. My wife and I tease my oldest that he is our practice child to see what works. I am convinced that a good upbringing is very beneficial to a child however I am equally convinced that their is no formula by which you can raise kids to do exactly as you want them to act as adults. I have seen to many kids who grew up in the same families go completely different directions.

God created Adam and Eve perfect and yet they failed, does that make God a bad Father for placing the tree in the Garden?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

The point is someone who has not raised their kids to adulthood does not have the experience to know what works and what doesn't. My wife and I tease my oldest that he is our practice child to see what works. I am convinced that a good upbringing is very beneficial to a child however I am equally convinced that their is no formula by which you can raise kids to do exactly as you want them to act as adults. I have seen to many kids who grew up in the same families go completely different directions.

God created Adam and Eve perfect and yet they failed, does that make God a bad Father for placing the tree in the Garden?

God had a contract. In the contract He mandated a consequence that they DIE should they CHOOSE to eat. Adam and Eve broke contract. Therefore they lost their souls and their paradise. Mow, did not mandate a consequence in his covenant to his eldest son.

I research denominations, religions, cults and sects. Of all of those different groups it is dogmatic ones who raise generations successfully passing on their religion. The real important point in all this is to raise children who will be truly devoted to a higher power, then just their parents and elders traditions.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

God had a contract. In the contract He mandated a consequence that they DIE should they CHOOSE to eat. Adam and Eve broke contract. Therefore they lost their souls and their paradise. Mow, did not mandate a consequence in his covenant to his eldest son.

Hmm lets see why don't you suggest a consequence for an adult that you have no power over. While they were in his house they obeyed his rules.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Hmm lets see why don't you suggest a consequence for an adult that you have no power over. While they were in his house they obeyed his rules.

Just calling it like I'm seeing it, councilor.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Just calling it like I'm seeing it, councilor.

You called a foul ball, umpire, but you haven't yet shown the line to determine if it is foul or not. You failed to address the question, what consequences do you give an adult?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

You called a foul ball, umpire, but you haven't yet shown the line to determine if it is foul or not. You failed to address the question, what consequences do you give an adult?

I don't gives consequences to the adult. His or her legacy is consequence enough.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com