Let's Bash the Preacher Some More

[tbpew]

GS,
I can wholeheartedly agree that any time spent in derision, gossip, or any kind of judgemental ridicule, is fully sourced from within what should be a former thing among the saints; carnal mindedness.

I also happen to be one of the folks here who believe that the label "man of God" is a former thing. It no longer has relevance. The role has been superceded because a veil (flesh) has been rent, the middle wall of partition between us being broken down; all have access onto the holy mountain.

So GS, do you teach that it is still appropriate to create differentiation among the saints by using the phrase "man of God"?

I can not. To do so would be to declare that children "of God" are something other than "of God". It would give occassion for incorrect thinking that there is some kind of preeminence among members of the body that God has anointed.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by tbpew

GS,
I can wholeheartedly agree that any time spent in derision, gossip, or any kind of judgmental ridicule, is fully sourced from within what should be a former thing among the saints; carnal mindedness.

I also happen to be one of the folks here who believe that the label "man of God" is a former thing. It no longer has relevance. The role has been superseded because a veil (flesh) has been rent, the middle wall of partition between us being broken down; all have access onto the holy mountain.

So GS, do you teach that it is still appropriate to create differentiation among the saints by using the phrase "man of God"?

I can not. To do so would be to declare that children "of God" are something other than "of God". It would give occasion for incorrect thinking that there is some kind of preeminence among members of the body that God has anointed.

Excellent post... as always.

[gloryseeker]

Originally Posted by tbpew

GS,I also happen to be one of the folks here who believe that the label "man of God" is a former thing. It no longer has relevance. The role has been superceded because a veil (flesh) has been rent, the middle wall of partition between us being broken down; all have access onto the holy mountain.

I understand what you are saying and I guess my response would be agree and disagree.

I believe you have taken the scripture somewhat out of context. True "all" now have access and the wall that separated man from God has been removed. You and I don't need another between us and God, but that did not remove the ministry in our life. I fully believe that there are people in our lives that we consider the "man of God" in our lives. I have a Pastor and as I have said many times that my spiritual DNA is in his anointing. I can personally say that I would not be where I am today except for the anointing that is on his life. So, yes I do have a "man of God" in my life.

I can not. To do so would be to declare that children "of God" are something other than "of God". It would give occassion for incorrect thinking that there is some kind of preeminence among members of the body that God has anointed.

I would disagree one has nothing to do with another if you understand authority. Using a secular example your statement would be equivalent to saying that a private is not in the US Army since he has a Sergeant over him. That's totally untrue and one statement has no bearing on the other statement.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by gloryseeker

I would disagree one has nothing to do with another if you understand authority. Using a secular example your statement would be equivalent to saying that a private is not in the US Army since he has a Sergeant over him. That's totally untrue and one statement has no bearing on the other statement.

GS,
What I find interesting is your example has no bearing on the dynamic of the Kingdom of God. In some ways, this is coming around (once again) to applying authority when none exists --member to member within a body.

If God's dwellingplace was established in the manner of a hierarchial military, your example would be spot on ---but since God's abode is a body your example lacks application.

[gloryseeker]

Originally Posted by tbpew

GS,
What I find interesting is your example has no bearing on the dynamic of the Kingdom of God. In some ways, this is coming around (once again) to applying authority when none exists --member to member within a body.

If God's dwellingplace was established in the manner of a hierarchial military, your example would be spot on ---but since God's abode is a body your example lacks application.

suppose we disagree then

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by gloryseeker

suppose we disagree then

seems like a solid supposition.

I'm going to keep on focusing on member to member interaction in a body and others can focus on what they think establishes the dynamic, even if it includes saluting rank.