Why Such A Fuss Over Standards!!

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Sis. Falla,

Things like honesty and integrity, principals, how we treat and respect people, etc. are commandments and teachings directly addressed in Scripture. No one challenges "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." No one challenges "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" or "Love thy neighbor as thyself." The only "fuss" is in relation to those outward standards that are not Scriptural. In fact the notion that these clear teachings of Scripture are regarded as "standards" and not "teachings" or "commandments" is a bit unsettling. We cannot confuse the the two.

And we don't want to forget the first and greatest which is to love the LORD, our God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength.

Every man is responsible for his own house. You are responsible for what you teach your children. Not anyone else. You are responsible to GOD for what you have sown and birthed.

My dad took that responsibility more seriously than any man I have ever known. He never felt adequete to do it alone, always seeking the face of his MAKER, through the leading of the Holy Ghost he received at age 15 yrs. He learned to go to His God before he married, looked to God for a wife, and when their children (11) came along. He did the same when he was inducted into the U.S. Army and was sent overseas, leaving behind a young wife and four children under 7 yrs old. He learned to trust his God on the front lines of battle in WWII, not willing to carry a weapon, but chose to carry two medical bags instead, to treat the wounded and help carry the dead off the front lines of battle..!

He came home and raised eleven children, seven sons and four daughters, raising them in the fear and admonition of his GOD. Founded a church, put eleven children through high school and most have had some additional education, etc. Pastored while working a full time job, in order to support his
large family. Never shirked his responsibility in providing his family, with both physical and spiritual needs. He took his questions to God in prayer in a back bedroom where he would come out with red rimmed eyes where he knew he
could find answers for any situation in regard to his family or church. There is
SO much I could say about this man we called "Daddy". I probably should have started a "Fathers Day" thread instead of posting this here. But I didn't....!

Yes, the standards (measure of excellence) for everything we are today, started in our home. Dad didn't buy everything someone said. He found his answers elsewhere. I am my father's daughter. The only reason I am on this forum in just maybe,... I can help someone along life's way and my living will not have been in vain!

Hugs,

Falla39

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Falla39

And we don't want to forget the first and greatest which is to love the LORD, our God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength.

Every man is responsible for his own house. You are responsible for what you teach your children. Not anyone else. You are responsible to GOD for what you have sown and birthed.

My dad took that responsibility more seriously than any man I have ever known. He never felt adequete to do it alone, always seeking the face of his MAKER, through the leading of the Holy Ghost he received at age 15 yrs. He learned to go to His God before he married, looked to God for a wife, and when their children (11) came along. He did the same when he was inducted into the U.S. Army and was sent overseas, leaving behind a young wife and four children under 7 yrs old. He learned to trust his God on the front lines of battle in WWII, not willing to carry a weapon, but chose to carry two medical bags instead, to treat the wounded and help carry the dead off the front lines of battle..!

He came home and raised eleven children, seven sons and four daughters, raising them in the fear and admonition of his GOD. Founded a church, put eleven children through high school and most have had some additional education, etc. Pastored while working a full time job, in order to support his
large family. Never shirked his responsibility in providing his family, with both physical and spiritual needs. He took his questions to God in prayer in a back bedroom where he would come out with red rimmed eyes where he knew he
could find answers for any situation in regard to his family or church. There is
SO much I could say about this man we called "Daddy". I probably should have started a "Fathers Day" thread instead of posting this here. But I didn't....!

Yes, the standards (measure of excellence) for everything we are today, started in our home. Dad didn't buy everything someone said. He found his answers elsewhere. I am my father's daughter. The only reason I am on this forum in just maybe,... I can help someone along life's way and my living will not have been in vain!

Hugs,

Falla39

Falla, I guess I just believe that the Bible alone is sufficient. If there isn't a short sleeve standard, a facial hair standard, a dress color standard, an open toe standard, a split standard, etc. in the Bible.... I'm not impressed with it because it's just a fleshly religious set of rules instituted by man. It's carnal and worldly. It's no more impressive to me than seeing the very conservative Muslims from the Middle East. It's all just flesh.

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Falla, I guess I just believe that the Bible alone is sufficient. If there isn't a short sleeve standard, a facial hair standard, a dress color standard, an open toe standard, a split standard, etc. in the Bible.... I'm not impressed with it because it's just a fleshly religious set of rules instituted by man. It's carnal and worldly. It's no more impressive to me than seeing the very conservative Muslims from the Middle East. It's all just flesh.

Bro. Aquila,

Some of your statements in your last two posts concern me. You say you
believe that the Bible alone is sufficient. The Word of God is very important
but without the SPIRIT to lead and guide, we're sadly lacking.

I don't know a lot about you but guess you to be a fairly young man, maybe
a couple or so children, perhaps pre-teen ages. Just guessing!

And although I was born just prior to WWII, my parents were the children of
those who came out of the Great Depression, and we were the children whose
parents went through the second world war. Yes, we were the children who
didn't question everything and everybody. Tom Brokaw wrote his book, "The
Greatest Generation", the one my parents were from. And they call us, their
children, "The Silent Generation". We were the children who were told to list-
en and learn. And listen and learn we did. We were fed the Word of God un-
til we could feed ourselves. The Word of God IS quick and powerful and
sharper than any two-edged sword even to the dividing of soul and spirit.

But, Bro. Aquila, I wasn't just a part of that or those generations, I've been
here ever since and am still very much alive! in Christ, that is!

I could go through all the various arguments, etc.,etc as to why this and
why that. But I would invite you to come back here when you are almost
70 yrs. (I will be in Sept 09) and after you have been married 50 yrs. (will
be July 11,09) and after you have raised your children and they have been
married for years and have children and are raising your grandchildren.

Brother, all I can say is you had better have the Spirit of Truth, the HOLY
GHOST, to lead you and guide you. Without the Spirit of Christ leading, we
would be hopeless. The Bible is the Guidebook. The Spirit is The GUIDE!

I mean no offense, Bro. Aquila! I just know that until we have been some-
where, we will not be a reliable source to tell someone else how to get
there. ALL I know is somehow by HIS GREAT mercy and grace we've come
this far by faith.

We've come this far by faith,
Leaning on the LORD.
Trusting completely in His Word,
He's never failed us yet.....

We've come this far by faith

Blessings abundantly,

Falla39

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Falla, I guess I just believe that the Bible alone is sufficient. If there isn't a short sleeve standard, a facial hair standard, a dress color standard, an open toe standard, a split standard, etc. in the Bible.... I'm not impressed with it because it's just a fleshly religious set of rules instituted by man. It's carnal and worldly. It's no more impressive to me than seeing the very conservative Muslims from the Middle East. It's all just flesh.

Bro. Aquila,

Have you seen me mention clothes standards one time! A light (lamp)
doesn't sit on the desk, etc and shout, "Look at me! I'm a light". See me
shine! It just shines, by the power within. It shines the brightest in the
darkness.

Falla39