Another SPLIT from the UPCI???

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Sandra

You are sooo right.. He is one of my Favorite people...He is the real deal!

Yes, he is!!!!! God Bless him!!!

[Maple Leaf]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

If you were ever in his presence, you would understand ALL about him. He exudes everything Biblical and good - everything solid and everything true.

Originally Posted by Sandra

You are sooo right.. He is one of my Favorite people...He is the real deal!

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yes, he is!!!!! God Bless him!!!

Colour me confused.

The posts here both praise and condemn Bro. Johnson.

I choose to believe the best of him and honour him as a man of God.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

Colour me confused.

The posts here both praise and condemn Bro. Johnson.

I choose to believe the best of him and honour him as a man of God.

Who condemned him? I just said that his church, for the most part, doesn't follow standards. Some still do. I have a good friend that attends and she still follows the outward dress.

[Maple Leaf]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Who condemned him? I just said that his church, for the most part, doesn't follow standards. Some still do. I have a good friend that attends and she still follows the outward dress.

To me, saying that a man has a UPCI license and doesn't teach the "standards" mandated in the manual condemns him. I'm glad that you don't, and appreciate the complimentary remarks that you have made about him.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

To me, saying that a man has a UPCI license and doesn't teach the "standards" mandated in the manual condemns him. I'm glad that you don't, and appreciate the complimentary remarks that you have made about him.

I understand that people DO have personal convictions. Some even, absolutely, have some of the same ones that the organization believes in. But, many in my circle do not believe pushing them on other people is Biblical to qualify them in the Body of Christ.

I'm not going to belabor this point, but we discuss this pants vs. dress thing. There are some women that are convicted of wearing pants and to say that ALL can wear them is not true for some women. I don't think we should be taking a strong stand either way!

It is still true, as I have experienced this when I was in sales - I was received on a much better level and with more agreeability when I was wearing a dress.

So to push the pants issue - it's not going to work for me.

Brother Johnson has so much depth that it leaves no doubt that any sincere person would find the place God wants them.

[tv1a]

The manual standards are not heaven and hell issues. Sometimes for change to occur, one must make extreme changes. All things are lawful, but not all things expedient. Remember that? If Rosa Parks used the same mentality as you propose, I'd would be getting the front seat of the bus today. Instead she broke the law. Was condemned by many for "sitting" down for her rights. We are a better country today because Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat.

There is a lot of garbage in the upci manual. The manual isn't even a shell of the founding father's intentions. Sometimes in order to make change, one has to make the change and challenge the status quo. Integrity isn't compromised. It is one way of challenging inconsistent and unbiblical mandates.

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

To me, saying that a man has a UPCI license and doesn't teach the "standards" mandated in the manual condemns him. I'm glad that you don't, and appreciate the complimentary remarks that you have made about him.