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Old 06-26-2009, 08:14 PM
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

It is quite evident that those who have negative opinions about my posting this think only of their own level of comfort regarding this matter. Do you truly think that those who are "hurt" will be swayed by this information? And if they are, won't they answer to God for their own decisions? Did Jesus protect people from negative information regarding crimes of this matter? Did he not preach that it was better that a millstone be hung around the necks of one who would hurt a little one?

Even Jesus shared examples and made examples of Pharisees, in particular. I sat under this man's ministry for YEARS. I loved him, I believed in him. You think about how people may be hurt. . .ask me about my family members who will now make mockery of the things of God due to this man's actions.

Maybe God would have you to spend some time in intercession for his Godly wife who sits with an entire life of ministry in ruins. I added no negative connotations to my post. I copied and pasted the docket entry, it spoke for itself. We DESERVE to know the TRUTH, isn't that what Jesus was all about? THE TRUTH!

I have a right to have my time of pain, my healing and an opportunity to share in this open forum.

Apostolic friends you say? I often wonder. I do have some Apostolic friends, but I would say more often then not I run into Apostolic snakes, vipers and hypocrites. You can now add pastor Huling to the list. I am human, I get to have feelings, God made me like that. It's OK to feel, to think, to vent, to "deal". I learned that after disassociating from the UPC.

I learned that God was loving and wanted me to truly have life more abundantly and I finally learned what grace was. I love my friends who remain and I thank God for bringing me to the place I am now and for where He is leading me.

I would implore you to get outside of your own minds, your own comfort zones, and empathize, for a moment with the many kinds of people and many real life situations that are out there.

Mrs. Bratti, thanks for the backing and for understanding.

Brothers and Sisters who disagree, you need to step outside into the great big world, disengage your heads from the sand and look around you, it will help you be much more effective in your ministries.
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:44 PM
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

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It is quite evident that those who have negative opinions about my posting this think only of their own level of comfort regarding this matter. Do you truly think that those who are "hurt" will be swayed by this information? And if they are, won't they answer to God for their own decisions? Did Jesus protect people from negative information regarding crimes of this matter? Did he not preach that it was better that a millstone be hung around the necks of one who would hurt a little one?

Even Jesus shared examples and made examples of Pharisees, in particular. I sat under this man's ministry for YEARS. I loved him, I believed in him. You think about how people may be hurt. . .ask me about my family members who will now make mockery of the things of God due to this man's actions.

Maybe God would have you to spend some time in intercession for his Godly wife who sits with an entire life of ministry in ruins. I added no negative connotations to my post. I copied and pasted the docket entry, it spoke for itself. We DESERVE to know the TRUTH, isn't that what Jesus was all about? THE TRUTH!

I have a right to have my time of pain, my healing and an opportunity to share in this open forum.

Apostolic friends you say? I often wonder. I do have some Apostolic friends, but I would say more often then not I run into Apostolic snakes, vipers and hypocrites. You can now add pastor Huling to the list. I am human, I get to have feelings, God made me like that. It's OK to feel, to think, to vent, to "deal". I learned that after disassociating from the UPC.

I learned that God was loving and wanted me to truly have life more abundantly and I finally learned what grace was. I love my friends who remain and I thank God for bringing me to the place I am now and for where He is leading me.

I would implore you to get outside of your own minds, your own comfort zones, and empathize, for a moment with the many kinds of people and many real life situations that are out there.

Mrs. Bratti, thanks for the backing and for understanding.

Brothers and Sisters who disagree, you need to step outside into the great big world, disengage your heads from the sand and look around you, it will help you be much more effective in your ministries.
I am ever so thankful that God has brought you to a place of healing. But before you try to rebuke Sister Alvear about her opinions, without seeming to know much about her ministry. This special lady has ministered in the jungles of Brazil since she was a young girl. Her ministry speaks for itself. She has seen more of the great big world than you probably will in your lifetime. And we are all entitled to our opinions.
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I am ever so thankful that God has brought you to a place of healing. But before you try to rebuke Sister Alvear about her opinions, without seeming to know much about her ministry. This special lady has ministered in the jungles of Brazil since she was a young girl. Her ministry speaks for itself. She has seen more of the great big world than you probably will in your lifetime. And we are all entitled to our opinions.
Yep, gotta agree with you on this one Granny!
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Re: A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHu

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It is quite evident that those who have negative opinions about my posting this think only of their own level of comfort regarding this matter. Do you truly think that those who are "hurt" will be swayed by this information? And if they are, won't they answer to God for their own decisions? Did Jesus protect people from negative information regarding crimes of this matter? Did he not preach that it was better that a millstone be hung around the necks of one who would hurt a little one?

Even Jesus shared examples and made examples of Pharisees, in particular. I sat under this man's ministry for YEARS. I loved him, I believed in him. You think about how people may be hurt. . .ask me about my family members who will now make mockery of the things of God due to this man's actions.

Maybe God would have you to spend some time in intercession for his Godly wife who sits with an entire life of ministry in ruins. I added no negative connotations to my post. I copied and pasted the docket entry, it spoke for itself. We DESERVE to know the TRUTH, isn't that what Jesus was all about? THE TRUTH!

I have a right to have my time of pain, my healing and an opportunity to share in this open forum.

Apostolic friends you say? I often wonder. I do have some Apostolic friends, but I would say more often then not I run into Apostolic snakes, vipers and hypocrites. You can now add pastor Huling to the list. I am human, I get to have feelings, God made me like that. It's OK to feel, to think, to vent, to "deal". I learned that after disassociating from the UPC.

I learned that God was loving and wanted me to truly have life more abundantly and I finally learned what grace was. I love my friends who remain and I thank God for bringing me to the place I am now and for where He is leading me.

I would implore you to get outside of your own minds, your own comfort zones, and empathize, for a moment with the many kinds of people and many real life situations that are out there.

Mrs. Bratti, thanks for the backing and for understanding.

Brothers and Sisters who disagree, you need to step outside into the great big world, disengage your heads from the sand and look around you, it will help you be much more effective in your ministries.
sis or bro if you had said you were a victim, do i assume of him? then i or all who saw this would understand. im sorry, i can think of no worse burden! or sin for that matter! just dont throw the baby out with the bath water? its not the upc or any org [that doesnt try to cover it ] and transfer it as we have seen happen? its that person and they are in every org. unfortunately.sin knows no boundries! GOD BLESS!

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