How concerned are we about this scripture?

*AQuietPlace* · #1 06-29-2009, 11:33 AM

(I Cor. 14:23) If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?

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A lot that goes on in traditional Pentecostal services looks CRAZY. I recently stood in the doorway at a conference that was held in a hotel ballroom. As I looked in, there were people whirling in circles, flopping on the floor, shaking people around, running around and around chairs, etc. I thought then that if a hotel guest walked by and looked in, they would think the people were absolutely mad.

Should this concern us? Does it not matter? Is it a move of God that should not embarrass us? (I'll confess, I felt embarrassed.

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How much should we worry about what people think?

Sister Alvear · #2 06-29-2009, 11:36 AM

I think people ought to study the order Paul gave us in his writings...

*AQuietPlace* · #3 06-29-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I think people ought to study the order Paul gave us in his writings...

What do you mean?

Sister Alvear · #4 06-29-2009, 11:52 AM

There is a time for all things...Paul wrote about people talking in tongues...the sinner understands nothing unless someone has the gift to tell them what is being said...gifts must work together.
I have heard people say they could not control the Holy Ghost it was so strong...I often say if you have no self control you are like a car without brakes...pretty dangerous...

Sister Alvear · #5 06-29-2009, 11:54 AM

"How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. . . . Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. If [any thing] be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. . . . If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. Let all things be done decently and in order." (1Corinthians 14:26, 29-32, 37-40, KJV)

Scott Hutchinson · #6 06-29-2009, 12:32 PM

This is talking everyone trying to give a message in tongues all at once.
1 Cor.14 is not a prohibition of spiritual gifts,Paul as an Apostle is just teaching the church about the proper usage of spiritual gifts.
The gifts of the spirit will used properly edify the church,when used out of order bring chaos,and cause confusion something God is not the author of.

POWERUP · #7 06-29-2009, 12:55 PM

I love that analogy Sis. Alvear!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a firm believer in Spiritual Gifts. But having a Jerhico March every service, is not going to save the lost.

But, of course if there is no preaching. Then we had CHURCH!!!!!!! Nobody got saved, nobody got delivered, nobodys marriage put back together. We rolled, spit, and jumped over pews.

Man we had some church!!!!!!!!

Sam · #8 06-29-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by POWERUP

I love that analogy Sis. Alvear!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a firm believer in Spiritual Gifts. But having a Jerhico March every service, is not going to save the lost.

But, of course if there is no preaching. Then we had CHURCH!!!!!!! Nobody got saved, nobody got delivered, nobodys marriage put back together. We rolled, spit, and jumped over pews.

Man we had some church!!!!!!!!

I agree with what you are saying.
I think the preaching/teaching of the Word of God is very important.
If we wind up with just a hallelujah hoedown all the time where is the edification?

There may be times, however, when God is dealing with an individual or several people or when there is a specific need and the whole (planned) service may be changed to minister to the ones in need. The whole service might become a prayer meeting or altar service to meet needs present at the time. That, in my opinion, is more important than following our regular ritual.

Sam · #9 06-29-2009, 02:53 PM

This video is on YouTube and hard telling how many have viewed it.

Does this glorify God?
Is this edifying?
Yeah, the scripture referenced in this thread was about all speaking with tongues but I can see how it could apply to a situation like this also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgByE0pX1M

SeekingOne · #10 06-29-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

This video is on YouTube and hard telling how many have viewed it.

Does this glorify God?
Is this edifying?
Yeah, the scripture referenced in this thread was about all speaking with tongues but I can see how it could apply to a situation like this also.

I couldn't even watch it all, it was so gross to me. I was not raised UPC and had no clue things like that go on there. YUK! A church I used to be a part of was originally a UPC church, but they did not have services like that! Maybe that is why they left the UPC?