Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?

[GrowingPains]

Mooney was well within in his bounds to say what he did and it wasn't overboard. This is all of our church, and if he thinks this is false doctrine, then he had every liberty to say what he did.

However, I would remind Mooney that some pretty honest and noble things have happened in secret, and that often times it's more appropriate for leaders to be able to communicate about something in secret, before slopping it openly in public. Keeps things above reproach.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

Mooney was well within in his bounds to say what he did and it wasn't overboard. This is all of our church, and if he thinks this is false doctrine, then he had every liberty to say what he did.

However, I would remind Mooney that some pretty honest and noble things have happened in secret, and that often times it's more appropriate for leaders to be able to communicate about something in secret, before slopping it openly in public. Keeps things above reproach.

Remember that Mooney is using this as a fear technique to keep the people of Mississippi scared of anything new. This is par for the course around here. By talking about secret meetings and possible false doctrine and snakes and whatnot you get all the little old ladies in Mississippi all fired up and headed back to their churches to enforce the doctrine on the young folks and make sure the pastor keeps the church in line.

I have a friend who is church of God (believe me the church of God has their own share of Pentecostal craziness going on) who went to one of the night services during the Mississippi youth camp and was completely horrified. From his descriptions they basically scared the little kids to death with talk of backsliding and sin and drugs and body tattoos and how one little sin could be all it takes to send you to hell (we are talking 8 year olds) till they all went screaming down to the altar to get the Holy Ghost. He said folks were everywhere praying with little kids trying to get them to speak in tongues and of course they were crying with all their heart because they wanted to be saved. I don't know if other state's youth camps are like this but I went to youth camp when I was a kid and it was about the same.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Remember that Mooney is using this as a fear technique to keep the people of Mississippi scared of anything new. This is par for the course around here. By talking about secret meetings and possible false doctrine and snakes and whatnot you get all the little old ladies in Mississippi all fired up and headed back to their churches to enforce the doctrine on the young folks and make sure the pastor keeps the church in line.

I have a friend who is church of God (believe me the church of God has their own share of Pentecostal craziness going on) who went to one of the night services during the Mississippi youth camp and was completely horrified. From his descriptions they basically scared the little kids to death with talk of backsliding and sin and drugs and body tattoos and how one little sin could be all it takes to send you to hell (we are talking 8 year olds) till they all went screaming down to the altar to get the Holy Ghost. He said folks were everywhere praying with little kids trying to get them to speak in tongues and of course they were crying with all their heart because they wanted to be saved. I don't know if other state's youth camps are like this but I went to youth camp when I was a kid and it was about the same.

You hate to think that, but at times that's what it appears to be.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Remember that Mooney is using this as a fear technique to keep the people of Mississippi scared of anything new. This is par for the course around here. By talking about secret meetings and possible false doctrine and snakes and whatnot you get all the little old ladies in Mississippi all fired up and headed back to their churches to enforce the doctrine on the young folks and make sure the pastor keeps the church in line.

I seriously doubt that was Bro. Mooney's intent. And there is a time for elders to rebuke the saints and fellow ministers collectively. Camp meeting is the perfect time for such an action, if needed, because many of the saints are gathered in one place.

I have a friend who is church of God (believe me the church of God has their own share of Pentecostal craziness going on) who went to one of the night services during the Mississippi youth camp and was completely horrified. From his descriptions they basically scared the little kids to death with talk of backsliding and sin and drugs and body tattoos and how one little sin could be all it takes to send you to hell (we are talking 8 year olds) till they all went screaming down to the altar to get the Holy Ghost. He said folks were everywhere praying with little kids trying to get them to speak in tongues and of course they were crying with all their heart because they wanted to be saved. I don't know if other state's youth camps are like this but I went to youth camp when I was a kid and it was about the same.

I haven't been to Mississippi camp, but I have absolutely NO problem with fire and brimstone preaching.

One of my all time favorites: Sinners In the Hands of an Angry God (Jonathon Edwards)

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I seriously doubt that was Bro. Mooney's intent. And there is a time for elders to rebuke the saints and fellow ministers collectively. Camp meeting is the perfect time for such an action, if needed, because many of the saints are gathered in one place.



I haven't been to Mississippi camp, but I have absolutely NO problem with fire and brimstone preaching.

One of my all time favorites: Sinners In the Hands of an Angry God (Jonathon Edwards)

I will listen to the message and see if that is his intent. My initial reaction is that it was because of past experiences.

The content of these messages was not about a sinful man needing a merciful God but about US keeping ourselves in right standing with God and an emphasis on the getting the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. Something you will not find in Jonathan Edward's messages. Preaching fire and brimstone has to include grace or all you end up with is a bunch of scared folks or folks hating God.