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Old 07-08-2009, 11:09 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?

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I agree with this. I just believe that sometimes we need to be sure we are balancing out and getting different perspectives when making major decisions or discussing serious matters. I'm not sure if this meeting in particular did or didn't include that, but in general, I've seen some pretty unbalanced things come out of a "bunch of like-minded people" carving a new path.
Now those of differing opinions would have to be open, honest, and earnest people in order to make any sort of progress. I'm sure that there are people like that on both sides of "the fence" in this situation.
These conversations and debates have been had for years. With many of these progressives getting singled out and black-balled, them meeting together is only understandable. The unknowns: What was the intention of the meeting? Were intentions made before-hand? Is there talk of leaving, or just advice to each brother with how to co-exist and to not lose faith, or walk away from UPCI?
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:11 AM
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These conversations and debates have been had for years. With many of these progressives getting singled out and black-balled, them meeting together is only understandable. The unknowns: What was the intention of the meeting? Were intentions made before-hand? Is there talk of leaving, or just advice to each brother with how to co-exist and to not lose faith, or walk away from UPCI?
Great stuff! This is what I am praying for.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:16 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?

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These conversations and debates have been had for years. With many of these progressives getting singled out and black-balled, them meeting together is only understandable. The unknowns: What was the intention of the meeting? Were intentions made before-hand? Is there talk of leaving, or just advice to each brother with how to co-exist and to not lose faith, or walk away from UPCI?
I'm not talking about debate per se. Of course, there are those who would only show up to debate and there would be no real dialogue and prayerful discussion. I'm not talking about those people on either side of the issues (and they do exist on both sides)
I'm just saying that even among progressives there are a variety of viewpoints, concerns, and opinions. I'm just of the opinion that it is best to be sure that you include those people to keep discussions balanced. I know this sounds like a paradox, but there is sometimes danger when a bunch of "like-minded" people get together and discuss change.

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