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Old 07-16-2009, 11:45 AM
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It seems like the Army did nip this one in the bud. His lawsuit is moot now, I would imagine, just like many of the others. And again, what proof is there that the Army pushed for his termination?
The army nipped it in the bud by changing their order???? Good grief!

What parent gives a child exactly what they want when they do something wrong? What would the other children do, if they saw little Suzie getting her way when acting out?

No, they nipped it in the bud by having him fired. What proof? What do you expect? Something in writing like this?

Dear employer,

Please fire Mr. Cook so that other reserves don't get the crazy idea that they should likewise bring a lawsuit to get out of combat duty.

[We could have let it play out in court for once and all so that no one else would be so foolish but that seemed a bit risky given the president's reluctance to bring any bonafide documents into a courtroom].

Again. Thank you for handling this pesky little detail. Your service to the country is appreciated. As you know we have a big contract order coming up. We will be in touch again.

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Old 07-16-2009, 12:48 PM
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The army nipped it in the bud by changing their order???? Good grief!

What parent gives a child exactly what they want when they do something wrong? What would the other children do, if they saw little Suzie getting her way when acting out?

No, they nipped it in the bud by having him fired. What proof? What do you expect? Something in writing like this?

Dear employer,

Please fire Mr. Cook so that other reserves don't get the crazy idea that they should likewise bring a lawsuit to get out of combat duty.

[We could have let it play out in court for once and all so that no one else would be so foolish but that seemed a bit risky given the president's reluctance to bring any bonafide documents into a courtroom].

Again. Thank you for handling this pesky little detail. Your service to the country is appreciated. As you know we have a big contract order coming up. We will be in touch again.

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Really, any legitimate proof would work. Any legitimate proof for any of this would work.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:28 PM
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Really, any legitimate proof would work. Any legitimate proof for any of this would work.
I'm sure you will get it with the proof of his birth really being in America.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:36 PM
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I'm sure you will get it with the proof of his birth really being in America.
We already have that proof. That is a well-known fact. No one seems to have proof that he is not an American citizen.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:44 PM
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We already have that proof. That is a well-known fact. No one seems to have proof that he is not an American citizen.
No we don't have that. No it is NOT a well known fact. Some say they do have that proof...but who knows who is lying?

IF he really had a legitmate birth certificate there would be no need to spend 2 million dollars to keep from producing it.

The copy you have seen on websites has been proven to be a fake. Not only that it was not what is called the long form that documents doctors name and etc.

But you go ahead and drink the koolaide and believe what they are telling you. After all we know the government would never fire someone for asking proof of a mere birth certificate.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:57 PM
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No we don't have that. No it is NOT a well known fact. Some say they do have that proof...but who knows who is lying?

IF he really had a legitimate birth certificate there would be no need to spend 2 million dollars to keep from producing it.
He does have a legitimate birth certificate, given to him by the state of Hawaii. It was thoroughly vetted during his campaign. The reason he is not laying down for the lawsuits is that the people filing them do not have any standing to do so, and because he has already given them what they have asked for. From one judge that dismissed a suit:

"In dismissing one such suit, Judge R. Barclay Surrick, of federal district court in Philadelphia, said an aim of the standing doctrine is to prevent courts from deciding questions "where the harm is too vague." He observed that a disgruntled voter who suffered no individual harm "would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and who underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary in living memory."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123440666520775795.html
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The copy you have seen on websites has been proven to be a fake. Not only that it was not what is called the long form that documents doctors name and etc.
Again, who has proven it fake? The application to get a copy of your birth certificate from Hawaii does not provide an option for long form or short form. You can view the application to get a copy of a Hawaiian birth certificate here:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-recor...l_records.html
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But you go ahead and drink the koolaide and believe what they are telling you. After all we know the government would never fire someone for asking proof of a mere birth certificate.
Again, if you have proof or sources, please share them. I am not above eating crow.
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I am not a liberal Democrat.

I am stating that this is the last time I will post on this ignorant thread.


Folks who believe this conspiracy question others when they believe their conspiracies.

Bottom line: God has ordained for America to be a country where the idiots can live and revel in their ignorance.


God bless the USA!

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He does have a legitimate birth certificate, given to him by the state of Hawaii. It was thoroughly vetted during his campaign. The reason he is not laying down for the lawsuits is that the people filing them do not have any standing to do so, and because he has already given them what they have asked for. From one judge that dismissed a suit:

"In dismissing one such suit, Judge R. Barclay Surrick, of federal district court in Philadelphia, said an aim of the standing doctrine is to prevent courts from deciding questions "where the harm is too vague." He observed that a disgruntled voter who suffered no individual harm "would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and who underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary in living memory."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123440666520775795.html

Again, who has proven it fake? The application to get a copy of your birth certificate from Hawaii does not provide an option for long form or short form. You can view the application to get a copy of a Hawaiian birth certificate here:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-recor...l_records.html

Again, if you have proof or sources, please share them. I am not above eating crow.
Exactly!! The courts of the U.S. have ruled it's a valid birth certificate. I'll take their word over someone who hasn't had the chance to look at all of the evidence in a non-biased manner.

I ordered a replacement birth certificate from the state of Arkansas a few years back. Does that mean I don't have a valid or "real" birth certificate?
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I'm sure you will get it with the proof of his birth really being in America.
They keep pushing the fake deal. With a 200 dollar printer, the illegals are good to go. The technology is more difficult in fake ID's and magnetic strips.
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