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Old 07-29-2009, 12:06 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says

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Did you not read the link that YOU posted? His dual-citizenship with Kenya expired when he turned 21. Kenya does not allow dual-citizenship from adults. Read the links you post from now on.
I did read.

Renunciation of citizenship by reason of dual citizenship or nationality.

19.—(1) If any citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies of full age and capacity who is also—



(a) a citizen of any country mentioned in subsection (3) of section one of this Act or of Eire; or



(b) a national of a foreign country,



makes a declaration in the prescribed manner of renunciation of citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies, the Secretary of State shall cause the declaration to be registered; and, upon the registration, that person shall cease to be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies:

Did obama make a declaration? Come on make something up. Give us dates.

(the exception is if he went to jail for a year elswhere.)

You said what obama claimed was false, then you swithced. Then you agree with what obama added and I lloked up british naturalization law.

Another test for deception. Stories change and Information is added.

It seems you have problems with obama's factcheck? His money.
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:13 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says

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I did read.

Renunciation of citizenship by reason of dual citizenship or nationality.

19.—(1) If any citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies of full age and capacity who is also—



(a) a citizen of any country mentioned in subsection (3) of section one of this Act or of Eire; or



(b) a national of a foreign country,



makes a declaration in the prescribed manner of renunciation of citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies, the Secretary of State shall cause the declaration to be registered; and, upon the registration, that person shall cease to be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies:

Did obama make a declaration? Come on make something up. Give us dates.

(the exception is if he went to jail for a year elswhere.)

You said what obama claimed was false, then you swithced. Then you agree with what obama added and I lloked up british naturalization law.

Another test for deception. Stories change and Information is added.

It seems you have problems with obama's factcheck? His money.
Again, from your link:

But the paper failed to note that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 21, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.


Since Obama did not renounce his American citizenship, he automatically lost his Keynan dual-citizenship at the age of 21.

You should proofread your offerings to this thread more.

Again, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This is settled for the government and the majority of the population.
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:30 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says

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Again, from your link:

But the paper failed to note that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 21, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.


Since Obama did not renounce his American citizenship, he automatically lost his Keynan dual-citizenship at the age of 21.

You should proofread your offerings to this thread more.

Again, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This is settled for the government and the majority of the population.
More silliness. How do you renounce something you do not have?

Stop making things up. When you are born, there is no requirement to make an oath of citizenship.

More deception. "proof on the accuser" Obama is the one that said he was born to a British citizen. There was no accusation.
Take it up with obama. You seem to have issues with what he posted and then put a silly spin on it for him

1 Obama posted he was born under british
2 You bring up dual citizenship. Where did that come from Indonesia??
3 Ooops, while you are spinning, he was Indonesian by reason of adoption.
4 Every time you bring up something, something else pops up.
Your general education seems to place limits on ya. That is not good.


http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm

Here is the law I quote instead of pulling it out of the air like your democrat style calls for.
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:44 PM
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Re: National Review Online Claims Obama US Born

A Republican senator called coadie a liar on national TV last night.









































































Well not by name but said the nuts who continued this nutty claim were liars if they continued to repeat what we in the senate know is a lie.
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Old 07-29-2009, 01:55 PM
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A Republican senator called coadie a liar on national TV last night.



























Well not by name but said the nuts who continued this nutty claim were liars if they continued to repeat what we in the senate know is a lie.
And there you have it folks. The benchmark of integrity and honestly and all knowledgable of what is and what is not, the heighth of all honesty and transparency, not just any senetor but a Republican senator. And we all know, when one of them speak, it is the truth and all those that may disagree are nuts.
Oh, I get it.
The fact that a GOP senator can decide for all Americans what is and is not truth is as comical as stating a Dem. senator too knows what is truth.
These peple up there would not know truth if it slapped them upside the head.
Which is why it seems it would be the proper thing would be just to produce the silly little long form birth certificate and put all these nut jobs in their place. Once again, too simple. It is far easier just to rail against those that question than to prove it.
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Old 07-29-2009, 03:02 PM
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Re: National Review Online Claims Obama US Born

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And there you have it folks. The benchmark of integrity and honestly and all knowledgable of what is and what is not, the heighth of all honesty and transparency, not just any senetor but a Republican senator. And we all know, when one of them speak, it is the truth and all those that may disagree are nuts.
Oh, I get it.
The fact that a GOP senator can decide for all Americans what is and is not truth is as comical as stating a Dem. senator too knows what is truth.
These peple up there would not know truth if it slapped them upside the head.
Which is why it seems it would be the proper thing would be just to produce the silly little long form birth certificate and put all these nut jobs in their place. Once again, too simple. It is far easier just to rail against those that question than to prove it.
Bowas, first of all welcome to the political side of the forum. It's good to see new people that I haven't seen post much here.

The fact is that even if the officials in Hawaii, including the Republican Gov., could break the law and go the vault, and pull out BO's long form birth certficate and put it on public display in Honolulu for a year and people like coadie would say that too was fake. They'd say it's a fake copy or some sort of junk like that.

They will never admit that this all junk that has no truth or validity whatsoever.

Anyone with a shred of common sense realizes that a Republican Gov. has no reason to lie and say that she has personally seen the original on file in Hawaii and is convinced it's legit.

I'll continue to wait with baited breath for coadie's court hearing on the matter. With all of his legal expertise and mountains of proof it's sure to be a "slam dunk" case much like the WMD's in Iraq was.
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:01 PM
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Bowas, first of all welcome to the political side of the forum. It's good to see new people that I haven't seen post much here.

The fact is that even if the officials in Hawaii, including the Republican Gov., could break the law and go the vault, and pull out BO's long form birth certficate and put it on public display in Honolulu for a year and people like coadie would say that too was fake. They'd say it's a fake copy or some sort of junk like that.

They will never admit that this all junk that has no truth or validity whatsoever.

Anyone with a shred of common sense realizes that a Republican Gov. has no reason to lie and say that she has personally seen the original on file in Hawaii and is convinced it's legit.

I'll continue to wait with baited breath for coadie's court hearing on the matter. With all of his legal expertise and mountains of proof it's sure to be a "slam dunk" case much like the WMD's in Iraq was.
Thank you for your warm welcome.
Concerning breaking the law and displaying the oringinal long form birth certificate is not what is being discussed. IF Obama himself were to want to put this entire issue to rest once and for all, he has within his power to make it public.
Regardless if a Rep. governor or anyone else so states they have in fact seen it, does not in itself prove anything. It is merely "hearsay" They are not under oath in any way so it means nothing. I do not know if this Rep. gov. is even qualified to make an authoritive proclomation as to the validity of it anyway. But that notwithstanding, is still just "hearsay"
And yes, I am sure even if they were to produce one it would be discredited as not being authentic and a forgery (why else would they have taken so long to "produce" one? )
Albeit, the reluctance to show it in a timely manner, obviously will keep the suspicious people suspicious.
We can then focus on who sponsered him to go to Indosia for schooling when Americans citizens were forbidden from doing so, and who sponsered him (on a foriegn student scholarship program) to attend our American University.
Oh, it won't end, but, Hey neither did the attacks and innuendos on previous presidents. (R or D) It's what we, as Americans do as one of our favorite past times and national sport.
Real or fake, produce it so we can go on to the next issue. We should not stop now.
As far as WMD's, the dirty little secret is Iraq really did have them and we know it. Why you ask? Because we sold it to them and had the reciepts to prove it, as they were our friends when they was fighting Iran. The real question is not IF they had them, but where are they? Most of them are still out there as some has been found, but that was not reported widely because the wrong president was in power. Just like now the Iraq war is no good (Bush's. war) but the war in Afganistan is good (Obama's war).

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Old 07-30-2009, 05:56 AM
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I'll continue to wait with baited breath for coadie's court hearing on the matter. With all of his legal expertise and mountains of proof it's sure to be a "slam dunk" case much like the WMD's in Iraq was.
Baited doen't accurately describe it

So President Bush was stupid because he accepted information from Clinton on weapons?
You are not honest enough to admit, the weapons info and encouragement for war was supported by Clinton, (both) albright (not very bright) and the Dem gang.
Recent history is not one of your strenghts

I can post the long list of liberals that tols us why they supported bush.
We sometiimes need an honesty check
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I'll continue to wait with baited breath for coadie's court hearing on the matter. With all of his legal expertise and mountains of proof it's sure to be a "slam dunk" case much like the WMD's in Iraq was.


Pre-War Quotes from Democrats

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998.

"Fateful decisions will be made in the days and weeks ahead. At issue is nothing less than the fundamental question of whether or not we can keep the most lethal weapons known to mankind out of the hands of an unreconstructed tyrant and aggressor who is in the same league as the most brutal dictators of this century."
Sen. Joe Biden (D, DE), Feb. 12, 1998

"It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction. As long as UNSCOM is prevented from carrying out its mission, the effort to monitor Iraqi compliance with Resolution 687 becomes a dangerous shell game. Neither the United States nor the global community can afford to allow Saddam Hussein to continue on this path."
Sen. Tom Daschle (D, SD), Feb. 12, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb. 18, 1998.

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. I'm a co-sponsor of the bipartisan resolution that's presently under consideration in the Senate. Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave threat to America and our allies..."
John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct. 10, 2002.

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
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