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Old 08-03-2009, 02:58 AM
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Re: Doctrinal Conference 2009 (Atlanta West)

If you were not intent on saving face you would have read where I believe the pattern is Jesus name baptism. Don't try to make this an issue of if I believe in the pattern or not. You said the Bible says EVERYONE was baptized in Jesus name. I showed you scripture where it does NOT say what was said when someone was baptized. You stated a falsehood whch you refuse to acknowledge as such.

There is a tremendous difference in saying the Bible says everyone did something and backtracking and stating there is a pattern in missing situations.

No one should be suprised. You complain about prosperity preachers twisting scripture. I cannot recollect the last time I read a post where you have misrepresented scripture at least once.

I am unable to see why it is okay for you to blatently distort scripture.

You are unable to stick to the facts. If you did, your religious dogmas would crumble under the weight of properly interpreting God's Word.

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The you don't believe in the PATTERN? I believe the command was obeyed as recorded. When it doesn't say it is understood because of the Pattern.
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:15 PM
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If you were not intent on saving face you would have read where I believe the pattern is Jesus name baptism. Don't try to make this an issue of if I believe in the pattern or not. You said the Bible says EVERYONE was baptized in Jesus name. I showed you scripture where it does NOT say what was said when someone was baptized. You stated a falsehood whch you refuse to acknowledge as such.

There is a tremendous difference in saying the Bible says everyone did something and backtracking and stating there is a pattern in missing situations.

No one should be suprised. You complain about prosperity preachers twisting scripture. I cannot recollect the last time I read a post where you have misrepresented scripture at least once.

I am unable to see why it is okay for you to blatently distort scripture.

You are unable to stick to the facts. If you did, your religious dogmas would crumble under the weight of properly interpreting God's Word.
Very respectful dialogue going on here.
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Old 08-03-2009, 01:24 PM
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Very respectful dialogue going on here.

Jeffreyyyyyyy......come on, now. I've seen some sharp dialogue from you a few times! And anyone who can talk to Mr. Epley and NOT get sharp is pretty much super-human.
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Old 08-03-2009, 04:53 PM
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Thanks for the observation. What type of character does a man have if he repeatedly misrepresents scripture? Going from every scripture says everyone was baptized in Jesus name to a statement that say a pattern suggests Jesus name baptism is two separate things. Epley acted like a coward and tried to make this about my beliefs of baptism. He even distorted my view on baptism. Although Eply tried it was never about what I believe about baptism. It was about Epley's misrepresentation of scripture. He has a consistent pattern of doing that. In the days where people still sucked on the bottle, he could get away with that garbage. And I am told to trust him with my soul? We are in trouble folks.

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Old 08-03-2009, 05:39 PM
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Thanks for the observation. What type of character does a man have if he repeatedly misrepresents scripture? Going from every scripture says everyone was baptized in Jesus name to a statement that say a pattern suggests Jesus name baptism is two separate things. Epley acted like a coward and tried to make this about my beliefs of baptism. He even distorted my view on baptism. Although Eply tried it was never about what I believe about baptism. It was about Epley's misrepresentation of scripture. He has a consistent pattern of doing that. In the days where people still sucked on the bottle, he could get away with that garbage. And I am told to trust him with my soul? We are in trouble folks.
I will allow the reader to judge. Did I ever ask you to trust me with your soul? I don't remember that?
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:48 PM
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Re: Doctrinal Conference 2009 (Atlanta West)

Wil you ever respond to the issue or do are you going to cower like a little puppy who missed the newspaper? There is a difference between a pattern and stating the Bible says everyone was baptized in Jesus name.

Another inconsistency is you call EB a brother on one hand while stating his views on Bible prophecy will send people to hell. You won't give a trinitarian who has been baptized in Jesus same hand of fellowship.

Principle compromised. If I'm not going to associate with one damnable heresy, I sure as heck am not going to pick and choose another damnable heresy to buddy up to.


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