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Old 08-05-2009, 08:10 PM
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Re: JP looking our way

It appears standards are part of your personal salvation package.

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I understand what you are saying here, but PERSONALLY, I like to think of it as not keeping "standards", but rather "standards" keeping me............

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Old 08-06-2009, 10:30 AM
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It appears standards are part of your personal salvation package.
And brakes are a part of my car....... TV, EVERYBODY has some kind or part of a standard - even if it is to have NO STANDARD........

The problem is when people start worshipping the standard and not God.........

I dont worship my standards, but I am thankful that HE has placed in my life certain desires and longings.......if you cannot understand that then we must not be worshipping the same God - Yes they are a part of my salvation package (as you call it), but I promise you this, it is HIM that I am worshipping and it is HIM that I long to please............ actually no one or nothing else matters to me -

Be Blessed.......
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:52 AM
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Re: JP looking our way

I agree with what someone else wrote a few days ago:

The "Holiness standards" are really modesty standards! Each church has a right to set modesty standards. Even golf courses have modesty standards.

What one considers modest differs from culture to culture and city to city. This is where the problems arise.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:19 PM
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Re: JP looking our way

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And brakes are a part of my car....... TV, EVERYBODY has some kind or part of a standard - even if it is to have NO STANDARD........

The problem is when people start worshipping the standard and not God.........

I dont worship my standards, but I am thankful that HE has placed in my life certain desires and longings.......if you cannot understand that then we must not be worshipping the same God - Yes they are a part of my salvation package (as you call it), but I promise you this, it is HIM that I am worshipping and it is HIM that I long to please............ actually no one or nothing else matters to me -

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Old 08-06-2009, 03:41 PM
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Quick question,

Why do we spend so much time worrying and crying, discussing and almost cussing over what others think concerning us?

There are some people who would walk into LFC and say to themselves - WOW!! this dude is come kind of ultra-conserative mean spirited freak..........simply by the lifestyle that people at LFC choose to live.........others would walk in and say, when seeing the same people, WOW!! what a loosey <even a word?> goosey weak, limp wristed little pansey that pastors this church - Bottom line..........who cares what those who are only out to get people to live to their line of standard think!!!

I am more interested in What Does HE Think?............ I preach, I teach - but I promise you this if people do not get a revelation FROM GOD concerning being dedicated.........my rules really dont mean a hill of beans. But when HE does the work..........then I am the one who walks in and says........... WOW!!

The same would probably be said about my church too....but my pastor will tell anyone and everyone-- he's not trying to please MAN-- he's trying to please GOD.

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And brakes are a part of my car....... TV, EVERYBODY has some kind or part of a standard - even if it is to have NO STANDARD........

The problem is when people start worshipping the standard and not God.........

I dont worship my standards, but I am thankful that HE has placed in my life certain desires and longings.......if you cannot understand that then we must not be worshipping the same God - Yes they are a part of my salvation package (as you call it), but I promise you this, it is HIM that I am worshipping and it is HIM that I long to please............ actually no one or nothing else matters to me -

Be Blessed.......
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:00 AM
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The Mrs is back!!!!

I have not been on enough to know she had been gone or for how long......could it be that she heard the IAM posted??........

Now where is that 13 load smilie??...........
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:20 PM
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Where am I supposed to disagree with you?
Everyone does have standards.
To use an automobile analogy. Everyone has a car, but not everyone is trying to force you to drive a car like theirs.

Your car may be a 4 speed. Mine may be a 5 speed. Another, an automatic. Cars come in all colors, shapes and sizes. Some are two doors, others are 4 doors. Some vehicles have sliding doors. With all the differences, a car still has common components that move the car. Using the same analogy, I don't mind what type of vehicle you drive. We'll get along as you do not judge others who don't have the same taste as you.

I think it is possible one of the signs of standard worship is how one with a certain standard judges one with a different standard.

For the most part a moderate/liberal mindset acknowledges there are many different interpretations on non salvational issues. Unfortunately the legalist mindset is that which refuses to acknowlege many of his/her personal beliefs are subjective.

Everyone better have a personal standard. I have not nor will I try to impose my personal convictions as part of the salvation package. That is legalism.

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And brakes are a part of my car....... TV, EVERYBODY has some kind or part of a standard - even if it is to have NO STANDARD........

The problem is when people start worshipping the standard and not God.........

I dont worship my standards, but I am thankful that HE has placed in my life certain desires and longings.......if you cannot understand that then we must not be worshipping the same God - Yes they are a part of my salvation package (as you call it), but I promise you this, it is HIM that I am worshipping and it is HIM that I long to please............ actually no one or nothing else matters to me -

Be Blessed.......
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado

Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard

Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV

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