What IF

[Esther]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Can you imagine the horrors of being in a large mall during a power outage and having the escalators stop?

I am thinking major disaster!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Can you imagine the horrors of being in a large mall during a power outage and having the escalators stop?

Worse would be in an elevator between floors and the door won't open.

[Tina]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Can you imagine the horrors of being in a large mall during a power outage and having the escalators stop?

Originally Posted by Esther

I am thinking major disaster!

Those two quotes used together are just hilarious.

Just walk down, get off the escalator-- then locate the nearest exit.

Originally Posted by Esther

How did you keep your dairy products from spoiling?

We used as much as possible before the ice in the coolers melted. We lived without dairy products for the duration of the outage. Didn't buy more till we had electricity again. We also took all the meat that was beginning to thaw and other foods from our freezers to a local church that had electricity and cooked them all in the fellowship hall. Gave away the cooked food to whoever was hungry. It sure beat letting it all spoil in the freezers and refrigerators.

[meBNme]

We have rechargeable batteries and a charger that works in the car as well as the home. (generator)

We have enough flashlights and LED room lamps to light the entire house and run constant with the chargers.

We also have multi fuel lamps that can use oil, kerosene, diesel and other fuels.

We can cook everything from coffee (a good stainless steel perkalator makes better coffee anyways and never needs filters.) to meats , and vegetables with nothing but a campfire made from tree limbs, and multiple fire starting sources from waterproof matches to torches to flint and steel with steel wool and pocket lint (dryer lint works great too, save it.)

All of our guns are the old fashioned mechanical kind, no sooper dooper laser death rays for us! :-P

We have a cooler/heater box that uses the cigarette lighter in the car to keep cool or hot for storing perishables like milks for weeks to months on end.

Most all of my power tools are lithium ion battery powered and with a power inverter can be recharged using any vehicles cig lighter. (36V DEWALT circ saw with 7 1/4 blade is just as powerfull as a plug up saw.)

So we could cook anything from T-bone steaks to mashed potatoes, and even bake cakes and bread over a campfire with nothing more than aluminum foil and grill parts.

We can defend ourselves against looters and idiots who would rather take from others who DID prepare instead of prepare for themselves.

We can make repairs, and or board up windows, and do minor construction with power tools.

Yeah, with God we could make it. (I cant even walk without holding his hand so I wouldn't ATTEMPT survival mode in desperate times without him.)

I've done what I can to prepare/protect my family, I fully trust God to do what I cannot.

I'm always looking for new ideas as well.

Oh..... did I mention?
We are country.
In the country.

A country boy can survive LOL

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Tina

Those two quotes used together are just hilarious.

Just walk down, get off the escalator-- then locate the nearest exit.

We used as much as possible before the ice in the coolers melted. We lived without dairy products for the duration of the outage. Didn't buy more till we had electricity again. We also took all the meat that was beginning to thaw and other foods from our freezers to a local church that had electricity and cooked them all in the fellowship hall. Gave away the cooked food to whoever was hungry. It sure beat letting it all spoil in the freezers and refrigerators.

That made me laugh and remember the joke about the boys who drowned in the back of the pick-up truck because they couldn't get the tailgate down.

What I was referring to is if the escalator stopped all of a sudden and you wasn't holding on to the rail you might go flying off.

Not that you couldn't walk off and not be trapped like an elevator. lol

[Esther]

Originally Posted by meBNme

We have rechargeable batteries and a charger that works in the car as well as the home. (generator)

We have enough flashlights and LED room lamps to light the entire house and run constant with the chargers.

We also have multi fuel lamps that can use oil, kerosene, diesel and other fuels.

We can cook everything from coffee (a good stainless steel perkalator makes better coffee anyways and never needs filters.) to meats , and vegetables with nothing but a campfire made from tree limbs, and multiple fire starting sources from waterproof matches to torches to flint and steel with steel wool and pocket lint (dryer lint works great too, save it.)

All of our guns are the old fashioned mechanical kind, no sooper dooper laser death rays for us! :-P

We have a cooler/heater box that uses the cigarette lighter in the car to keep cool or hot for storing perishables like milks for weeks to months on end.

Most all of my power tools are lithium ion battery powered and with a power inverter can be recharged using any vehicles cig lighter. (36V DEWALT circ saw with 7 1/4 blade is just as powerfull as a plug up saw.)

So we could cook anything from T-bone steaks to mashed potatoes, and even bake cakes and bread over a campfire with nothing more than aluminum foil and grill parts.

We can defend ourselves against looters and idiots who would rather take from others who DID prepare instead of prepare for themselves.

We can make repairs, and or board up windows, and do minor construction with power tools.

Yeah, with God we could make it. (I cant even walk without holding his hand so I wouldn't ATTEMPT survival mode in desperate times without him.)

I've done what I can to prepare/protect my family, I fully trust God to do what I cannot.

I'm always looking for new ideas as well.

Oh..... did I mention?
We are country.
In the country.

A country boy can survive LOL

How would you do that?



BTW...a friend told me a redneck joke on how to roast hot dogs. Get your garden rake and you have 10 or so spikes you can stick your hot dog on and roast like a rotisere.

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by Esther

How would you do that?

It's an old boy scout trick that I have improved on a little by reading survival books and experimenting.

Ideally you can use three or four square or rectangle grill pieces and aluminum foil.
Surprisingly cardboard wrapped in foil can be used in a pinch too.

You wrap the grill pieces (or cardboard) in aluminum foil, make a bed of hot stones heated from the campfire, place the bread (typically in a bread tin) on the aluminum foil over the bed of hot stones. Then using the foil wrapped grills you form three walls and then form a roof and front with a foil flap. this of course covers the bread tin to fashion an oven. Then shovel burning coals and embers around the two sides and back all the way up to the top. It's even better with a rigid top as well to place coals on the top.

To make this easier you can dig a hole, place your stone bed, build your oven, and dump the coals in around it.

BTW...a friend told me a redneck joke on how to roast hot dogs. Get your garden rake and you have 10 or so spikes you can stick your hot dog on and roast like a rotisere.

I like that one! LOL

[SeekingOne]

Originally Posted by meBNme

We can defend ourselves against looters and idiots who would rather take from others who DID prepare instead of prepare for themselves.

Whoa, now there's loving your neighbor as your self and loving the enemy for ya! Yep, you will bring many to Christ - NOT.

Sorry, I don't usually get ugly on forums, but really, isn't during a crisis the BEST time to bring people to Jesus? Isn't that when they need Him the most and we have the most opportunity?

Okay, now you guys have found MY hot button.

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by SeekingOne

Whoa, now there's loving your neighbor as your self and loving the enemy for ya! Yep, you will bring many to Christ - NOT.

Sorry, I don't usually get ugly on forums, but really, isn't during a crisis the BEST time to bring people to Jesus? Isn't that when they need Him the most and we have the most opportunity?

Okay, now you guys have found MY hot button.

There is a big difference between people in need of help and criminals who will inflict harm and even kill to take forcibly whatever you may have that they happen to want.

I have and will be perfectly willing to help others in times of crisis, disaster etc.
But I will not allow punks and thugs to come and take everything we have to survive and endanger my family in the process.

You need something, ask. If I have it to give, I will. If I can help I will.
But if you come at my family and I at gunpoint or in the dead of the night through a window to forcibly TAKE our supplies, you will be stopped. By whatever means necessary. If you happen to not live through the encounter, that is a result of YOUR decisions. I just stopped you.

[SeekingOne]

Originally Posted by meBNme

There is a big difference between people in need of help and criminals who will inflict harm and even kill to take forcibly whatever you may have that they happen to want.

I have and will be perfectly willing to help others in times of crisis, disaster etc.
But I will not allow punks and thugs to come and take everything we have to survive and endanger my family in the process.

You need something, ask. If I have it to give, I will. If I can help I will.
But if you come at my family and I at gunpoint or in the dead of the night through a window to forcibly TAKE our supplies, you will be stopped. By whatever means necessary. If you happen to not live through the encounter, that is a result of YOUR decisions. I just stopped you.

Absolutely correct, thieves don't need God, they need hell. Hopefully they will die on a cross next to Christ, he won't shoot them.

I don't know, for me it is different. I guess I feel like if I am supposed to be Christ-like (Christian) I have to do as I think Christ would do. I would have a hard time killing someone Jesus told me to love. I trust that God knows they came to me in the way they did, He will tell me what to say and what to do. If I die, I know where I am going. Hopefully my witness will bring them to repentance. If they die, they go to hell and I live with the fact that I did not love them and offer them the hope and forgiveness that I have been given.