No, it shut it's doors, the few saints moving to other churches in Austin. The pastor, Bro Robert Condrey spent the next couple of years working with Spirit of Freedom ministries.
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Ms. Peh,
There was a lot of UPC church turmoil in Austin around that time. Pastors were leaving and the ultra con wonder Keith Clark moved there and started a church. Somewhere along that same timeline David Bernard also started his church in Austin.
The result of all of the churn was at least two smaller Austin area UPC churches that I can think of closed and Rex Johnson stepped in as the new pastor of another UPC Austin church that was having trouble.
It has been relatively stable since then though as both RJ and DB have seen tremendous growth in their churches.
Yeah. I was such a naive noob those days that I didn't catch on. I was still in that hyper innocent new convert phase where I just knew that all the people of God were absolutely perfect and loved one another with a perfect love and there was no such thing as church troubles. Nor did I realize there were "saved people" outside the UPC.
If I knew then what I know now I would probably just stayed a catholic. Blessedly 20 years has also brought on a little wisdom and quite a bit more tolerance, thus I remain Apostolic.
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Last edited by John Atkinson; 08-12-2009 at 06:37 AM.
No, it shut it's doors, the few saints moving to other churches in Austin. The pastor, Bro Robert Condrey spent the next couple of years working with Spirit of Freedom ministries.
Yeah. I was such a naive noob those days that I didn't catch on. I was still in that hyper innocent new convert phase where I just knew that all the people of God were absolutely perfect and loved one another with a perfect love and there was no such thing as church troubles. Nor did I realize there were "saved people" outside the UPC.
If I knew then what I know now I would probably just stayed a catholic. Blessedly 20 years has also brought on a little wisdom and quite a bit more tolerance, thus I remain Apostolic.
I know what you mean. Your post here is one that makes me both want to laugh and cry at the same time!
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
It seems none of these churches have live broadcasts, except Promiseland.
You can buy DVD's or Promiseland West services. I believe they only use one camera but they still do a good job. I have one of them.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Have you done a YouTube search? Someone may have already done that.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
No, it shut it's doors, the few saints moving to other churches in Austin. The pastor, Bro Robert Condrey spent the next couple of years working with Spirit of Freedom ministries.
Yeah. I was such a naive noob those days that I didn't catch on. I was still in that hyper innocent new convert phase where I just knew that all the people of God were absolutely perfect and loved one another with a perfect love and there was no such thing as church troubles. Nor did I realize there were "saved people" outside the UPC.
If I knew then what I know now I would probably just stayed a catholic. Blessedly 20 years has also brought on a little wisdom and quite a bit more tolerance, thus I remain Apostolic.