Me, too. I only know of one muslim (WII), one agnostic (Timmy) and one universalist (CJ).
Are there others?
Yes. There are also other groups of people. While they aren't the majority in regard to posts, they post on their candy stick topics. Remember the homo thread about a month ago or less? People were coming out of the woodwork like crazy!
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I'm respectfully writing this post expecting a sincere opinion from other posters, even admin if at all possible. I'm disgusted with false Christian theology that's plastered through-out AFF's threads. I just re-read AFF's rule and regulations, which are as followed:
"Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic forum. Apostolic is defined as: Those that believe that every sinner must repent of their sins. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues."
Next, the rules of conduct read:
"This discussion board is for Apostolic Pentecostal Christians who believe that the Bible, in its entirety, is the Word of God, is without error, and that it is completely relevant today. Apostolic Pentecostal ChristiansWe do not, however, give place for the tearing down, the disputing of, or destruction of, Apostolic doctrine faith in any form. The propagation of any doctrine that is contrary to the Apostolic doctrine is not welcome here
The forum regulations clearly read this forum is for Apostolic Pentecostals (see AFF regulations for definition of Apostolic, or see above). The regulations also state AFF doesn't allow the "tearing down" or "Destruction" of Apostolic faith. The regulations state those that do so aren't welcome here.
There are many here who disagree, and teach contrary to what you (AFF) has defined as Apostolic. You (AFF) have said you wouldn't allow the "tearing down" of the Apostolic faith, as you defined in your forum rules. Yet, I read many posters here claim speaking in tongues isn't evidence of Holy Ghost infilling or isn't necessary (contrary to AFF rules), or baptism in Jesus name isn't necessary (contrary to AFF rules).
So now, I, plus other posters call on AFF to rewrite or reinforce their forum regulations. Please show us how dearly you adhere to the Apostolic doctrine, as your forum regulations claim you do.
Respectfully,
1Corinth2v4
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*haven't read any others' posts yet*
Oh yeah its obvious and I have even stated a related opinon
or two about this, but to no avail., there will always be justifications
that our concerns are misplaced. (WHATEVER!) Nothing is done
just like in regular world politics., same here as at another forum.
OH WELL. *sigh*
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The Lords name is now Bejesus? Did he legally change his name through government's registrars office?
Here's the dictionary for you.
Bejesus; using as a mild oath expressing dismay, anger, or the like.
Actually, I'm totally shocked that you think that is OK! That is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. You can try to justify it all you want but it's not a word that is used frequently here.
So, you're using a word that contains Jesus to express dismay, anger or the like? What's the different between that and saying Jesus Christ as an expletive?
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DG, it is statements like the bolded portion that are being referred to. This statement at face value, declares that what you came out of (Oneness Pentecostalism/Apostolic) was false doctrine, and that you were in fact 'lost" until you found your way out of such deception. In addition, you are very clear of your intent to help "deliver" the rest of us who are in the bondage of such heresy from its clutches.
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Delta guitar is a greasy gracer, but I think he is a sincere and nice guy.
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I think the real problem with the forum are the greasy gracers. Do they line up with apostolic doctrine as defined in the regulations?
Bishoph, I realize how it sounds and I know it is offensive but there are many that have the same testimony. For me to tell you this can maybe help you and others who are in the movement understand why so many are leaving and the struggles that many face. I am not trying to destroy people's beliefs and there are many I come in contact with everyday that I would never be able to have these discussions with.
DM, thanks and I agree. This is the only place I know of that Apostolic doctrines can be discussed and dissected. If anything Apostolic ministers should welcome the opportunity to have their doctrines discussed from an outside point of view.
Remember, it has been shown that historically there are Apostolics who were greasy gracers and who taught in salvation prior to baptism or speaking in tongues. Realize, if Apostolics would drop the "water and spirit" doctrine then I am not going to attack them for being Pentecostal. I have many friends who are COG and AOG and will speak in tongues and prophesy over me in a heartbeat. I receive these prayers out of respect and brotherly love even though it is not something I readily practice or try to make happen. I do go to a pentecostal church.
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Actually, I'm totally shocked that you think that is OK! That is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. You can try to justify it all you want but it's not a word that is used frequently here. ?
Should we discuss shocked and the justifying of certain actions?
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So, you're using a word that contains Jesus to express dismay, anger or the like? What's the different between that and saying Jesus Christ as an expletive?
I enjoy fine literature.
The word literature contains the word rat. In the comment above, am I referencing a body of writings or a rodent?
And btw, you are one of the absolute WORST offenders, here.
Always talking about how happy you are to be delivered from Oneness Pentecostalism.
I've been reading this thread with both dismay and amusement.
First - although I've posted very little over the past year or so I've been an active lurker/reader. I have participated in these forums under a few different names since the early days of Jim Yohe's FCF..... He brought a certain texture and character to that forum that's changed and evolved over the past few years.... That's not good or bad - it just IS!
The vitriol and rhetoric in this thread from those who would seem to be "conservative" is pretty sad. If this behavior is indicative of the conservative "side" of the UPC or any other organization - then I too wouldn't hesitate to be thankful I am NOT part of those groups (as was alluded to in quoted post above).
People need to lighten up and display a little humility. You might think you know everything, that you've got doctrine nailed down, that it's your way or the highway - but what IF one day you discover you were wrong??? What if....? Discussion is a two way street. Denying those who disagree with you (using quite unpleasant language) the right to state their opinions and positions is not discussion. It seems that the "liberals" seldom seek to throttle the "conservatives". They may say things to provoke discussions or get a reaction or "stir the pot" - but they're in it for a dialog and conversation and expect to get back what they give. Not so with some on the "other side".
I think some people need to take a deep breath, grow up, and oh yes - use the <report post> button if you think your sensibilities have been unduly offended.
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