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Old 09-25-2009, 02:52 PM
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We as Christians have attempted to widdle away at the Separation of Church and state for decades. I've always argued that this is dangerous because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the United States. Get read... an American Islamic Coalition is going to move for serious political clout within the next two or three generations.

We need to completely secularize our government and insure equal rights for all to protect ourselves.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:31 PM
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There is a reason our forefathers recognized and developed those principles and it has nothing at all to do with Islam. The price for the noted rights has been paid and this is not something that should be allowed to slip away lightly. Separation of the two is one of the fundamental principles that above all others should be maintained, protected, and guarded against. By both sides.

Your argument that it is "dangerous because of islam" is a bit thin when the foundations or roots of these principles trace back to persecution of citizens by "church-based" governments formed on the basis of "christian law". Indeed it is BECAUSE of the actions of the christian churches (actions that actually happened vs. theoretical actions that could happen) that these principles were put in place to begin with. A return to witch burning, heresy trials, and torture is not in the best interests of either side nor to our country. Included is application of Sharia law in any way, shape, or form. Islam would do well to not repeat the mistakes of others. Christianity would do well to remember and not return to the past.

Were the pentecostal church to determine what the laws are or should be with pentecostal ministers running the government our society would look a lot like, be worse than, and be more repressive than saudi itself. At least flow of information is more free under sharia law than "pentecostal law". I have no love for or wish for either.

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We as Christians have attempted to widdle away at the Separation of Church and state for decades. I've always argued that this is dangerous because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the United States. Get read... an American Islamic Coalition is going to move for serious political clout within the next two or three generations.

We need to completely secularize our government and insure equal rights for all to protect ourselves.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:26 AM
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There is a reason our forefathers recognized and developed those principles and it has nothing at all to do with Islam. The price for the noted rights has been paid and this is not something that should be allowed to slip away lightly. Separation of the two is one of the fundamental principles that above all others should be maintained, protected, and guarded against. By both sides.
Please cite where this reference to the founding fathers and separation of church and state is found.
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