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09-30-2009, 03:08 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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No, only when that's more important than being humble before God or it becomes the focus.
We've all seen those people that are only there to be seen.
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I would say anywhere - -not just church.
You can dress up and look fabulous - not against that and I don't believe God is either, but if THAT is what is most important to you when you go out, then that's where it's wrong. Once again, a matter of the heart.
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Absolutely! I know what you're saying. But wearing "showy" clothing really isn't the issue--it's the "showy" attitude. Wearing a beautiful dress with a humble spirit is not going to come across "showy"--just pretty and sweet.
When people think they are superior to others (or they act as if they are) because they're wearing nice clothing--that's when it's an issue.
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09-30-2009, 03:10 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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Absolutely! I know what you're saying. But wearing "showy" clothing really isn't the issue--it's the "showy" attitude. Wearing a beautiful dress with a humble spirit is not going to come across "showy"--just pretty and sweet.
When people think they are superior to others (or they act as if they are) because they're wearing nice clothing--that's when it's an issue.
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See, your one post explained more clearly what my 10 were trying to say.
Also, please remember that I use to live in St. Louis so my outlook is a bit tainted at times.
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09-30-2009, 03:15 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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See, your one post explained more clearly what my 10 were trying to say.
Also, please remember that I use to live in St. Louis so my outlook is a bit tainted at times.
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I don't remember who mentioned it (seems like it was Carpenter--a long time ago), but I think sometimes that Apostolic women feel at a disadvantage in their distinctive clothing and hair. The way to combat that is to either put on an air of superiority, OR to put a wall of protection around yourself since you feel that others look down on YOU because of how you dress.
I'm not saying they all feel that way, but it could explain the standoffishness of some people.
Or, maybe it's a lack of social skills. Many people are so cloistered away from the world, that they don't know how to interact normally with regular people. So again, they come across as superior or proud, when in fact they may not feel that way at ALL. Then you have other groups who have pastors who instruct them not to fellowship with "darkness", so they look at sinners and saints from other churches as potential contaminants.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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09-30-2009, 03:23 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I don't remember who mentioned it (seems like it was Carpenter--a long time ago), but I think sometimes that Apostolic women feel at a disadvantage in their distinctive clothing and hair. The way to combat that is to either put on an air of superiority, OR to put a wall of protection around yourself since you feel that others look down on YOU because of how you dress.
I'm not saying they all feel that way, but it could explain the standoffishness of some people.
Or, maybe it's a lack of social skills. Many people are so cloistered away from the world, that they don't know how to interact normally with regular people. So again, they come across as superior or proud, when in fact they may not feel that way at ALL. Then you have other groups who have pastors who instruct them not to fellowship with "darkness", so they look at sinners and saints from other churches as potential contaminants.
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I agree with your first paragraph for certain.
Just like kids that wear uniforms to school so that everyone looks alike, HOWEVER, they have to wear the designer, expensive jacket to express themselves. It's human nature.
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09-30-2009, 03:29 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
I agree with your first paragraph for certain.
Just like kids that wear uniforms to school so that everyone looks alike, HOWEVER, they have to wear the designer, expensive jacket to express themselves. It's human nature.
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And there's nothing wrong with that. But don't tell me I can't wear a wedding ring at the same time.
(yes, I have a burr under my saddle on the wedding ring thing  )
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09-30-2009, 03:32 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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And there's nothing wrong with that. But don't tell me I can't wear a wedding ring at the same time.
(yes, I have a burr under my saddle on the wedding ring thing  )
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Everyone in our church wears weddings rings, including our pastor and his wife - well - except for me and my husband. We just don't wear them. We hate rings. Not all churches are governed the same.
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09-30-2009, 03:35 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Everyone in our church wears weddings rings, including our pastor and his wife - well - except for me and my husband. We just don't wear them. We hate rings. Not all churches are governed the same.
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And that's not standard if it is okay in some churches and not in others.
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09-30-2009, 03:37 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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Everyone in our church wears weddings rings, including our pastor and his wife - well - except for me and my husband. We just don't wear them. We hate rings. Not all churches are governed the same.
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I know that. But my fellowship group doesn't do wedding rings, but DOES do showy hairdos and clothing. Does not compute, not in my brain.
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09-30-2009, 03:34 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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And there's nothing wrong with that. But don't tell me I can't wear a wedding ring at the same time.
(yes, I have a burr under my saddle on the wedding ring thing  )
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What cracks me up is the ones that wear "watches" that look like the most gaudy bracelet every, but it's okay because it has a time piece connected to it.
Some you can't even tell it's a watch because you have to open up something to tell the time.
That's the inconsistency stuff. Just give it up and wear a bracelet - that's what they are wanting you to think it is anyway.
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09-30-2009, 03:40 PM
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Re: My Name is on www.wedeclare.org
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What cracks me up is the ones that wear "watches" that look like the most gaudy bracelet every, but it's okay because it has a time piece connected to it.
Some you can't even tell it's a watch because you have to open up something to tell the time.
That's the inconsistency stuff. Just give it up and wear a bracelet - that's what they are wanting you to think it is anyway.
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Yep.
I've always said it - watches are jewelry. If you don't believe in jewelry, you shouldn't wear a watch. Any kind, much less the bracelet-y kind.
I do wear a watch, but I don't think jewelry is wrong. If I did, I wouldn't wear one.
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