Notof...all I'm saying is that it is not always a situation where music strategically gets people worked up. Some churches are worshipping churches and the people will worship no matter what. That being said, however, the music is a very important part of the worship and that is Biblical as well.
I'm just saying that you cannot use your experiences to say that wherever and whenever you see people worshipping like this, it is not spiritual and music manufactured it. I can't speak for every church, but I do know many churches where this is not the case.
I'm not trying to speak for all of Pentecost or about your old church.
I suppose I would respectfully disagree with the above bolded. I think it's worked up. I do. I mean no disrespect, but I've never seen music like this happen without people going crazy. I've never seen music like this played and have people standing around.
I'm not totally condemning it. If it's what people want to do and have fun, I'm all for it. If it makes people feel good, no prob. But like Delta said, to call it a "move of God" or whatever is....for me....unrealistic. And I think to claim it's beyond a person's control is also unrealistic.
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I suppose I would respectfully disagree with the above bolded. I think it's worked up. I do. I mean no disrespect, but I've seen music like this happen without people going crazy. I've never seen music like this played and have people standing around.
I'm not totally condemning it. If it's what people want to do and have fun, I'm all for it. If it makes people feel good, no prob. But like Delta said, to call it a "move of God" or whatever is....for me....unrealistic. And I think to claim it's beyond a person's control is also unrealistic.
Notof, I guess there's not much you can say when one feels like they know everything and that their experiences and what they've seen is somehow universal. So I guess there's not much more to say than that your experiences and your views do not necessarily a universal fact make. I attend a church that worships in a variety of ways including some of what many would call demonstrative or exhuberant. However, I am also thankful that we are a church that is spiritual enough, enlightened enough, and responsible enough to not manufacture it, push for it, or do it for "fun".
God Bless,
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Notof, I guess there's not much you can say when one feels like they know everything and that their experiences and what they've seen is somehow universal. So I guess there's not much more to say than that your experiences and your views do not necessarily a universal fact make. I attend a church that worships in a variety of ways including some of what many would call demonstrative or exhuberant. However, I am also thankful that we are a church that is spiritual enough, enlightened enough, and responsible enough to not manufacture it, push for it, or do it for "fun".
God Bless,
Oops, major typo. I meant....I've never seen music like this take place without........
Notof, I guess there's not much you can say when one feels like they know everything and that their experiences and what they've seen is somehow universal. So I guess there's not much more to say than that your experiences and your views do not necessarily a universal fact make. I attend a church that worships in a variety of ways including some of what many would call demonstrative or exhuberant. However, I am also thankful that we are a church that is spiritual enough, enlightened enough, and responsible enough to not manufacture it, push for it, or do it for "fun".
God Bless,
OK, now I read your entire post after I saw my typo.
Above bolded.....come on, Stew, I've always like the things you post. WE disagree here. That IS ok, isn't it? I'm expressing my opinions like a million other people on this forum. No need to throw that at me.
OK, now I read your entire post after I saw my typo.
Above bolded.....come on, Stew, I've always like the things you post. WE disagree here. That IS ok, isn't it? I'm expressing my opinions like a million other people on this forum. No need to throw that at me.
I'm just saying that in the context of this conversation, you are not leaving any room for the possiblity that your experiences, opinions, and perspective are not universally true.
I'm not saying that there are not churches who manufacture and are into false emotionalism or whatever. What I am saying is that it is reckless to assume that everytime you see people praise in this way in every church that it is not spiritual and is manufactured hype.
You are expressing your opinion, but you are also expressing the underlying premise that your opinion is definitive and universally accurate.
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