'Cause I'm Scared

Nitehawk013 · #1 10-30-2009, 10:34 AM

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Of course. But that's completely, not even remotely what I'm talking about.

And witches didn't originate with Disney. Try reading some of the original Grimm's Fairy Tales from way, way back (way before tv). They're horrifically evil and violent.

NO doubt Grimm had some bad stuff. My point is that for years I heard Apostolics talk about how great disney stuff was. How clean and wholesome it always was. Then someone at church pointed out all the witchcraft in it!

I wasn't attempting a hijack. Just saying I think TV is dangerous if not monitored and controlled.

jfrog · #2 10-30-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

NO doubt Grimm had some bad stuff. My point is that for years I heard Apostolics talk about how great disney stuff was. How clean and wholesome it always was. Then someone at church pointed out all the witchcraft in it!

I wasn't attempting a hijack. Just saying I think TV is dangerous if not monitored and controlled.

There is more "witchcraft" in the land of narnia than there is in any disney cartoon. The important part of a story is its theme and I don't think the theme of any of these cartoons is about trying to get kids to practice "witchcraft"

Pressing-On · #3 10-30-2009, 10:43 AM

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There is more "witchcraft" in the land of narnia than there is in any disney cartoon. The important part of a story is its theme and I don't think the theme of any of these cartoons is about trying to get kids to practice "witchcraft"

I don't agree with you here. The reason being, every movie my children watched and every book I read to them, they wanted to BE that character. I have made tons of costumes for them through the years! LOL! They have been everyone you can imagine!!!

If someone needs a costume - they know I have it! LOL!

Nitehawk013 · #4 10-30-2009, 10:46 AM

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There is more "witchcraft" in the land of narnia than there is in any disney cartoon. The important part of a story is its theme and I don't think the theme of any of these cartoons is about trying to get kids to practice "witchcraft"

Narnia is all Christian symbolism.

I almost stood up and shouted in the movie when Aslan snapped back at the witch "Do not speak to me of the Law! and told her he was there when it was written! He represented CHrist. That was powerful.

I also loved the symbolism of him giving his life to die for all. And teared up a bit when he showed himself resurrected with the sun shinging around him standing in victory.

OnTheFritz · #5 10-30-2009, 04:06 PM

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Narnia is all Christian symbolism.

I almost stood up and shouted in the movie when Aslan snapped back at the witch "Do not speak to me of the Law! and told her he was there when it was written! He represented CHrist. That was powerful.

I also loved the symbolism of him giving his life to die for all. And teared up a bit when he showed himself resurrected with the sun shinging around him standing in victory.

Yes, but that goes to the point that themes do matter. Small kids aren't going to know that it is an allegory. To them it is just about a talking Lion vs. a witch. The point being that most of the old Disney movies are also about good triumphing over evil - just like Narnia. Evil is clearly evil.

Unless of course you equate all magic to evil, and I don't think that necessarily needs to be true for kids. I have seen kids grow up without much imagination because parents were so freaked out that if it wasn't a "Godly" magic, that the kids were going to be in the occult by age 9. Fantasy is a good jumping off point for creativity and imagination. Kids aren't dumb -- they get that it's pretend.

Pressing-On · #6 10-30-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

NO doubt Grimm had some bad stuff. My point is that for years I heard Apostolics talk about how great disney stuff was. How clean and wholesome it always was. Then someone at church pointed out all the witchcraft in it!

I wasn't attempting a hijack. Just saying I think TV is dangerous if not monitored and controlled.

I noticed church people using some of the words that Disney was bringing out - cr**, butt, etc. At least, IMO, I noticed it happening when I was aware that Disney was using these words more. I think things we read or listen to can subtly change some of our mannerisms and thought.

*AQuietPlace* · #7 10-30-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

NO doubt Grimm had some bad stuff. My point is that for years I heard Apostolics talk about how great disney stuff was. How clean and wholesome it always was. Then someone at church pointed out all the witchcraft in it!

I wasn't attempting a hijack. Just saying I think TV is dangerous if not monitored and controlled.

I completely agree.

But, as a matter of fact, I wasn't even talking about the animated Disney stuff.

I meant the older ones with real live people in them. 'Follow Me Boys', etc.

Pressing-On · #8 10-30-2009, 10:51 AM

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I completely agree.

But, as a matter of fact, I wasn't even talking about the animated Disney stuff.

I meant the older ones with real live people in them. 'Follow Me Boys', etc.

Isn't that with Fred MacMurray and Kirk Russel? That is a really good movie!

I LOVE Pollyanna!!!!

*AQuietPlace* · #9 10-30-2009, 10:57 AM

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Isn't that with Fred MacMurray and Kirk Russel? That is a really good movie!

I LOVE Pollyanna!!!!

Fred MacMurray, yes. It is a really good one.

GraceAmazing · #10 10-30-2009, 01:33 PM

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Just saying I think TV is dangerous if not monitored and controlled.

Too much of anything that is not monitored or controlled is dangerous

...not just TV. Spending too much time on an internet forum can be dangerous if it is not monitored and controlled...Just my two cents...

You have to pray and seek guidance for YOUR family...If you are truly seeking God's will, He WILL give you the answers you desire. However, having being raised UPC...my mindset still plays a factor in everything I do...STILL. When we left, it was the TOUGHEST decision on one hand because both of our parents and our families are still VERY MUCH UPC, but it was the easiest one on the other hand because we finally realized what WE believed! Whew...sigh! Praying for all of you that are currently walking down this road...it is not a simple or easy situation to work thru!