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11-04-2009, 10:23 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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I don't know what that person preached but all things declare the glory of God... including procreation.
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Sure. So, D4T, please compare french kissing your wife to french kissing God. LOL!!! That was one of MANY points made in the sermon.
I agree that a husband and wife's union and producing of children declares the glory and majesty of God. However, the marital relationship is not the same across the board as our relationship with God. We don't have sexual feelings toward God.
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11-04-2009, 10:25 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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Sure. So, D4T, please compare french kissing your wife to french kissing God. LOL!!! That was one of MANY points made in the sermon.
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Yep... way off base.
I stand corrected. LOL
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11-04-2009, 10:26 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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Yep... way off base.
I stand corrected. LOL
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Yep, sorry, I had to go there to illustrate the idiocy. LOL!!!!! 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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11-04-2009, 10:27 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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Yep, sorry, I had to go there to illustrate the idiocy. LOL!!!!! |
Some idiocy is unexpected... Good grief. 
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11-04-2009, 10:58 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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Sure. So, D4T, please compare french kissing your wife to french kissing God. LOL!!! That was one of MANY points made in the sermon.
I agree that a husband and wife's union and producing of children declares the glory and majesty of God. However, the marital relationship is not the same across the board as our relationship with God. We don't have sexual feelings toward God.
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Years ago, "making love" was not a reference to sexual intimacy.
If you've ever seen any movie classics from the 40's and 50's, it just meant saying sweet nothings in someone's ear.
But, I do remember my sister visiting church with me. She was praying at the altar and an elderly woman was praying with her. She said, "Make love to him!" She totally stopped praying. LOL!
Not a good term to use today, but the older generation meant nothing nefarious by it.
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11-04-2009, 10:59 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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Years ago, "making love" was not a reference to sexual intimacy.
If you've ever seen any movie classics from the 40's and 50's, it just meant saying sweet nothings in someone's ear.
But, I do remember my sister visiting church with me. She was praying at the altar and an elderly woman was praying with her. She said, "Make love to him!" She totally stopped praying. LOL!
Not a good term to use today, but the older generation meant nothing nefarious by it.
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I knew a pastor who, all the time, would say, "Let's just make love to the Lord" and everyone would turn red.
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11-04-2009, 11:00 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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I knew a pastor who, all the time, would say, "Let's just make love to the Lord" and everyone would turn red.
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What was his age?
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11-04-2009, 11:05 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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What was his age?
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Yep, you nailed it!!!
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11-04-2009, 11:16 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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Yep, you nailed it!!!
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You see? He meant nothing by it. He'd probably be embarrassed if someone explained to him that terminology has changed.
Remember when "queer" just meant "strange". Now you can't say, "That's queer."
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11-04-2009, 11:22 AM
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Re: The most controversial pastor in North America
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You see? He meant nothing by it. He'd probably be embarrassed if someone explained to him that terminology has changed.
Remember when "queer" just meant "strange". Now you can't say, "That's queer."
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And "gay" meant happy.....
Once in a while someone in church -always a seasoned citizen, will refer to my wife as my "mate". THAT makes me uncomfortable for some reason. It almost sounds like gutter talk to me. Sex as a form of function, aka procreation, versus something you are actually allowed to enjoy.
(Granted, I have no problem with the Australian form of the word.)
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