Thou shalt murder?

jfrog · #1 11-14-2009, 10:11 PM

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Ok, enlighten me with the answer you'd like to hear........

lol, whether you honestly think it is possible for God to command that of someone in our time?

RevDWW · #2 11-14-2009, 10:22 PM

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lol, whether you honestly think it is possible for God to command that of someone in our time?

As a matter of fact I can't find anything in the New Testament that would convience me that the Church should have a physical military arm. Having some understanding of the teachings of Jesus, I doubt there would be a command to His Church/Spiritual Kingdom to totally destroy a Nation physically, like He did in the Old Testament. The caveat being, God is sovereign and can do whatever He wants whether we agree with it or not.

jfrog · #3 11-14-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

As a matter of fact I can't find anything in the New Testament that would convience me that the Church should have a physical military arm. Having some understanding of the teachings of Jesus, I doubt there would be a command to His Church/Spiritual Kingdom to totally destroy a Nation physically, like He did in the Old Testament. The caveat being, God is sovereign and can do whatever He wants whether we agree with it or not.

So since you leave the option for such a command open, would you take part if a prophet came and said God said to kill all the people of some nation?

RevDWW · #4 11-14-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

So since you leave the option for such a command open, would you take part if a prophet came and said God said to kill all the people of some nation?

I really don't see any indication or evidence in the New Testament God would do this.

How would you know it was a prophet from God?

easter · #5 11-15-2009, 07:21 AM

Matthew 10:16 I am sending you out like sheep among wolves.Therefore be shrewed as snakes and as innocent as doves.

jfrog · #6 11-15-2009, 07:36 AM

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I really don't see any indication or evidence in the New Testament God would do this.

How would you know it was a prophet from God?

The same way they knew the prophets of old were from God

RevDWW · #7 11-15-2009, 08:19 AM

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The same way they knew the prophets of old were from God

I'm not asking 'they' I'm asking 'you'........

jfrog · #8 11-15-2009, 08:56 AM

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I'm not asking 'they' I'm asking 'you'........

I told you... follow the same criteria the isrealites used to decide if a man was a prophet

By the way, How do you determine if someone is a prophet, the new testament says they still exist... so how do you decide if a man is one or not?

Jeffrey · #9 11-18-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

As a matter of fact I can't find anything in the New Testament that would convience me that the Church should have a physical military arm. Having some understanding of the teachings of Jesus, I doubt there would be a command to His Church/Spiritual Kingdom to totally destroy a Nation physically, like He did in the Old Testament. The caveat being, God is sovereign and can do whatever He wants whether we agree with it or not.

Then why do we encourage our men to enlist in the service, pray for them for safety (therefore praying doom against their enemies, who are just young men representing a different poitical cause)? How can we celebrate "patriotic" war, herald patriotic movies of "bravery" when the Christian image of "bravery" is a bleeding Savior, who gives His life willingly with unclenched fists. Please explain...