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Old 12-17-2009, 02:20 PM
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We are desperate for more space, but I refuse to take on a huge debt load.

We're in need of godly wisdom and a financial miracle.
Why not take 30% of your congregation and start a new work or do split replicating services or do multi-campus? All are super cheap to do and still grow the church.
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And, while I am not opposed to house churches, I am fairly confident our members want a traditional meeting place. Our church is in a rural community.
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Why not take 30% of your congregation and start a new work or do split replicating services or do multi-campus? All are super cheap to do and still grow the church.
I think the replicating services are our next step until we move. But I have always wondered how to set those up.
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Re: Economical Church Buildings

I don't know a lot about these things in the states BUT I will pray for you to find God's best plan for your people.
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I think the replicating services are our next step until we move. But I have always wondered how to set those up.

The big trend here in Dallas is to do Sat. Night/Sunday morning services.

I also know of a lot who do
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on Sunday morning. the service is the same both times, broken up by sunday school in the middle.
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I think the replicating services are our next step until we move. But I have always wondered how to set those up.
I've read several REALLY good resources on how to do it and have spent time with several churches who do it well.

Try these...

This is kinda the basic book about it

http://www.amazon.com/How-Start-New-...1085538&sr=8-2

This book is amazing and ive been to his church.. they have multiple services at once in different building on their campus, one with a gospel theme, one with a cowboy theme, one hard rock for the youth, one contempory worship in a warehouse complex. they run about 7000 and have about 80% attendance in their midweek sermon small groups.
http://www.amazon.com/Sticky-Church-...ref=pd_sim_b_7

This is how Christ the King is starting multiple campus churches with multiple services, its like the 3rd or 4th fastest growing church in the nation in rural areas that it services.

http://www.amazon.com/Deliberate-Sim...ref=pd_sim_b_3
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One of the advantages to replicating services is that if you keep them to a reasonable time frame like 60-75 minutes you can train your folks to "Serve one and Attend one" in otherwords to do ushering, parking, nursery, kids ministry, etc in one service and then attend the other.. that way no one misses either the opportunity to serve or the opportunity to learn.
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http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/...le_church.html

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Question: When should churches add another service?

Answer: When the pews are full.

Wrong.

At least according to Tim Stevens and Tony Morgan of Granger Community Church in Granger, Ind. In their Rev magazine article (adapted from their book Simply Strategic Growth) they argue for a number of ideas for drawing crowds to your church (which I've already summarized), and one of them is adding multiple services regardless of how full your church is.

Let's take a look at why...

Multiple services give churchgoers a choice. More choices means it's more likely your church will fit into their schedule. Not everybody works 9-5, Monday-Friday. Some people work Sunday mornings (gasp).
Multiple services means more opportunities to serve. If you have more opportunities and more needs, you're likely to get more volunteers. That's their logic anyway. Frankly, I think this is positive spin on a bigger issue: Multiple services are more work.
Multiple services let you be creative. God forbid anyone should mess with the Sunday morning service. But there's more freedom to experiment with an extra service and try out something new.
Multiple services maximize space. What good is empty space on Saturday night? You get the most bang for your space if you use it more than just Sunday morning.
Multipe services create unity. Well, not really, but let me explain. 800 people in one worship service aren't getting to know each other, so why insist on having your entire church meet together? Instead realize that church unity happens when members get to know one another on a deeper level, often through small groups, sports, classes, fellowship groups, etc. Multiple services force you to be intentional about creating unity in your church outside of the main services, instead of relying on that main service to do it (which it probably isn't).
Of course the downsides aren't really mentioned. More services are more work. They may eventually pay off when more members equal more volunteers, and more offerings equal more budget—but that's a pay off churches might not see right away. Multiple services also increase the importance of having all the right infrastructure in place, from staffing to branding to communication—it's more an obstacle than a downside, but not every church is prepared to offer more services.

But I still love this idea because there's less emphasis on filling every last pew. Forget about whether or not we've reached building capacity, throw open the church doors and let the people come.
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Re: Economical Church Buildings

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We are desperate for more space, but I refuse to take on a huge debt load.

We're in need of godly wisdom and a financial miracle.
We are in incredibly desperate need for space. We have people literally parking blocks away and sitting in additional chairs in the aisles. We are actively looking at options to address this, but I agree with you about the need for Godly wisdom. We are currently debt-free and are very cautious about what kind of position we are willing to put ourselves in.
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Re: Economical Church Buildings

By the way, thanks for the thread. I am already seeing a lot of interesting info and food for thought.
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