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Old 12-19-2009, 07:02 PM
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Re: Susan Boyle - What can we learn?

I know that Susan can sing, but.....


I'm sorry, She puts the Ugh in Ugly!


But... She has such a nice personality!


(That's something only ugly people say)
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Can I say something about blue denim whales now?
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I know that Susan can sing, but.....


I'm sorry, She puts the Ugh in Ugly!


But... She has such a nice personality!


(That's something only ugly people say)
You're right--she isn't beautiful. However, the point of the thread is that we are trained to think that outward beauty is indicative of inward beauty, and outward ugliness points to a lack of inward value. We are so surprised when something beautiful or valuable comes from an unattractive vessel--why?

It's a sad commentary on humanity when, as Simon said, the audience behind him "smelled blood" when Susan first got up to sing. We tend to assume someone is worthless if they have a certain outward look, and more importantly, if they don't fit into the current media/fashion industry-set standard for beauty.

We may logically know it isn't true, but our first instinct is to go with what we're told is valuable. In today's society, that's a perfect outward appearance, Character Irrelevant.

We shouldn't be so surprised when people who fall outside our perception of beauty have something of value to contribute. Yet we still are....
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You're right--she isn't beautiful. However, the point of the thread is that we are trained to think that outward beauty is indicative of inward beauty, and outward ugliness points to a lack of inward value. We are so surprised when something beautiful or valuable comes from an unattractive vessel--why?

It's a sad commentary on humanity when, as Simon said, the audience behind him "smelled blood" when Susan first got up to sing. We tend to assume someone is worthless if they have a certain outward look, and more importantly, if they don't fit into the current media/fashion industry-set standard for beauty.

We may logically know it isn't true, but our first instinct is to go with what we're told is valuable. In today's society, that's a perfect outward appearance, Character Irrelevant.

We shouldn't be so surprised when people who fall outside our perception of beauty have something of value to contribute. Yet we still are....
Yep, you are right Hermana,

It has been that way for milleniums. I don't know anything about Simon or what when on behind the scene, the only thing I know about this story is what I have read on AFF.

I just have read this thread and was laughing because there were the parts where some thought that she should just remain like she was. That is okay, unless she wants to get married of course. I don't know, maybe she is already married, in which she has that hurdle crossed.

A man is motivated by what he sees more so than a woman. Does this woman have a good character and sweet spirit, absolutely. Does that mean that now men are going to ask her to marry one of them? Probably not. That voice does not change her looks.

Men are just base creatures, and I obviously am not a sexist, being of the male species myself.
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