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Old 12-21-2009, 08:45 PM
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Re: Sounds like we already have "death panels"

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Mike, you know full well that what caused this house of cards was the housing market bubble that burst. The bubble was fueled by the GOVERNMENT'S insistence that banks lend money to unworthy customers.

The beauty of free markets is that if you get too greedy, for power or money, the market will punish you. This terrible economy is a good lesson that government meddling in the banking industry, housing market, fill in the blank only complicates and frustrates the market.

But your previous point that the motivation of companies to make a profit is what is wrong with liberals and the Democrats. You act as though if someone makes money its inherently evil. You say a bureaucrat does better work and can be trusted because they aren't jaded by greed. Have you gone to the BUREAU of Motor Vehicles lately? Do those bureaucrats serve you well? How did you like the 2 hour wait? The BEST products, service, inventions, innovations and advances have ALWAYS come from the strength of private industry, not government intervention.

So just to be clear and to refocus on the specifics of the topic at hand, what are you suggesting for the gentleman with diabetes who no insurance company will insure due to his pre-existing conditions and the fact that he's too expensive to keep alive?

Your stating that private insurance companies can be trusted to provide adequate healthcare coverage and there's no need for any gov't regulation of the industry, so what happens when they don't? What's your suggestions Deacon?
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:13 AM
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So just to be clear and to refocus on the specifics of the topic at hand, what are you suggesting for the gentleman with diabetes who no insurance company will insure due to his pre-existing conditions and the fact that he's too expensive to keep alive?

Your stating that private insurance companies can be trusted to provide adequate healthcare coverage and there's no need for any gov't regulation of the industry, so what happens when they don't? What's your suggestions Deacon?
Have you not heard the new plan will penalize those that "cause" their bad health from being overweight, etc?

Have you not heard the new plan should be called "Rationed Care"? You will hear more of this not less.

The seniors are told to get ready to hear the word "NO" a lot. No you can't have that surgery, no you can't have that medicine, no you can't go to the doctor.

You have your head stuck in the sand if you truly believe the government healthcare plan is a better plan.

It will cost you double or more than what you are paying now. And I understand this plan is uncontitutional. Who ever heard of a government demanding people to buy a product?

If you don't have money how do you propose the people pay a stiffer fine?
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