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Old 01-02-2010, 10:01 PM
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Re: Better pay up....LOL

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Good discussion between NOW and NOS, good points made by both. Overall, I'd have to side with NOS, because despite the fact that these mega churches are supposed to be "Reaching" the un-churched, the result seems to truly be Christianity without the cross.

I work with people who go to the local megas, have family memebrs who attend some. To me it is quite a perk, you can go to a big church, and be a Christian without repentance. Hey, if I want to continue to live my own way, but be caled a Christian, sign me up for that one. And, guess what, they sign up in droves. But are they being concerted, are they being born again, are their lives bearing the fruit of the Spirit, as a majority, no.

It is this type of "grace" Paul writes against in Romans 6:1-2.


PS-I lost alot of respect when Warren flip flopped on homosexuality last year during (or right after) the elections.

Aaaaack!!! Jason, you know I love you, but this makes me crazy!! How can you say that? Let me ask you this.....go head and be negative with your answer, but of Saddleback's 40,000 members, what percentage would you have "True Christianity with the cross"?


And when did Warren flip-flop on homosexuality? He outwardly supported Prop 8 (in which I was disappointed) and he never changed that stance.
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