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Old 01-05-2010, 12:47 PM
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Bush and his war on terror are closer to Hitler than Obama.
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:51 PM
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Bush and his war on terror are closer to Hitler than Obama.
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:42 PM
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Re: David Kaiser What if he is right?

I knew this was a hoax while I was reading this.

No one of this man's alleged educational calibre would write the way this paragraph is written.



There are so many folks who really, really HATE OUR President, without any good reason.

It's not just a matter of politics for many folks.


There is nothing that President Barack Hussein Obama could EVER do right or good in their eyes.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

When I think about it, it maddens me. So I choose not to dwell on it.
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Old 01-05-2010, 06:58 PM
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Re: David Kaiser What if he is right?

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I knew this was a hoax while I was reading this.

No one of this man's alleged educational calibre would write the way this paragraph is written.



There are so many folks who really, really HATE OUR President, without any good reason.

It's not just a matter of politics for many folks.


There is nothing that President Barack Hussein Obama could EVER do right or good in their eyes.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

When I think about it, it maddens me. So I choose not to dwell on it.
It works both ways. If we had a Republican President in office, the media and the Dems would be ripping him apart.

However just being opposed to someone for ideological reasons does not mean you hate the man.
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:04 PM
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It works both ways. If we had a Republican President in office, the media and the Dems would be ripping him apart.

However just being opposed to someone for ideological reasons does not mean you hate the man.
For you this is true. For many others, I am not sure. I tire of reading and/or listening to "Conservatives" who are supposed to be a bit more educated and balanced finding every little reason to criticize him-- usually their criticisms are overexagerated.



I don't think that the media and Dems would rip any Republican apart unless they gave them ample reason for it.

I can remember the time where GWB was not butt of every political joke from the left. In fact, things really did not get bad for him until about 2005, as far as his every move being critiqued and attacked.

The "Swift Boaters" were dirty IMO and there was a strong element on the left that never forgave GWB's tolerance of the "Swift Boaters" tactics.
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For you this is true. For many others, I am not sure. I tire of reading and/or listening to "Conservatives" who are supposed to be a bit more educated and balanced finding every little reason to criticize him-- usually their criticisms are overexagerated.



I don't think that the media and Dems would rip any Republican apart unless they gave them ample reason for it.

I can remember the time where GWB was not butt of every political joke from the left. In fact, things really did not get bad for him until about 2005, as far as his every move being critiqued and attacked.

The "Swift Boaters" were dirty IMO and there was a strong element on the left that never forgave GWB's tolerance of the "Swift Boaters" tactics.
Bush became the butt when the Dems realized public opinion was against the war THEY Signed off on in congress. Then they pointed fingers away from themselves at Bush and Republicans. And even now, after having won the election they blame Bush and republicans for a lot of stuff.

Here are some things to think about. Barack ran on the ticket that he was gonna get our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan...so far that has not happened.

He ran on a platform of fixing the economy, but now we are more in debt than ever before.

Democrats and Republicans both do it, and unless you straddle the fence of the middle road and are a independent, you are gonna be biased for or against one side more than the other...

As far as I am concerned, the both do it, they both get us into trouble. Neither keeps their campaign promises, which makes them essentially liars, they both blame the other side rather than admit they screwed up (Democrats were complicit in the war and in our bad economy along with Bush). They both point fingers at the previous administration (Republicans like to blame Bill Clinton for things, like the lending law that pushed banks to lend to people that could not pay it back). They are two sides of the same coin. They have the same basic over all agenda with slight domestic differences.
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Re: David Kaiser What if he is right?

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I knew this was a hoax while I was reading this.

No one of this man's alleged educational calibre would write the way this paragraph is written.



There are so many folks who really, really HATE OUR President, without any good reason.

It's not just a matter of politics for many folks.


There is nothing that President Barack Hussein Obama could EVER do right or good in their eyes.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

When I think about it, it maddens me. So I choose not to dwell on it.
I don't think it's Barak Obama himself, personally that the "loyal opposition" is so put off with. It's just a sign of how polarized our whole country is.

The Dems used the Great Depression as a tool to entrench themselves in power. With only a couple of exceptions (once in the 1950's and once in 1990's) the Dems have controlled both Houses of Congress and have written all of the laws and all of the budgets for the past 80 years.

They really felt like they were entitled to power and the media and academia were used to further the Dems power base.

Then, along comes Ronald Reagan and for the first time since Eisenhower it looks like the Republicans might make a showing. It took many more years, but eventually they did wrest power away from the Dems for a few years during Bill Clinton's admin.

This caused the Dems, the media, academia, the Unions and the whole Democrat power base to freak out badly. Then came the razor slim victory of GWB in 2000, and the Left has been on loony over-drive ever since.

Unfortunately, many Republicans took notice of the Dems' practices and have adopted similar tactics. They used the "scandal weapon" to keep Clinton on a leash just as the Dems had tried to use it on Reagan. Problem was, Clinton really did have some scandals to hide!

Now there are voices on the Right who shout shrill things about BHO hoping to find something that sticks. This is reminiscent of the tactics of the Dems that gave Reagan the nickname of "The Teflon President" - none of the accusations stuck.

The birthers and a portion of the Tea Party crowd seem to have throw reason aside. They just keep throwing stuff out there and it does get tiring. In fact, these types of tactics (by both "Wingnuts" and the "Loony Left") remind me of the tactics used by Young Earth Creationists.

No one, it seems, is really interested in the truth. They just want to mindlessly shout slogans and attack their philosophical opponents even if it means they have to lie to do so. They feel their lies are justified for the "greater truth" as embodied by their respective creeds.

This is all wrong, of course, but it also seems to be a big part of human nature.
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No one, it seems, is really interested in the truth.

So true.

However, I do think that our President is one who strives to seek balance.

For the President who has his own party dominating in both houses of Congress, he isn't allowing the Democrats to take the country too far left of center at all.

I have said it thousand times, but our President is more conservative than most Democrats realize and more conservative than most Conservatives want to acknowledge.
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So true.

However, I do think that our President is one who strives to seek balance.

For the President who has his own party dominating in both houses of Congress, he isn't allowing the Democrats to take the country too far left of center at all.

I have said it thousand times, but our President is more conservative than most Democrats realize and more conservative than most Conservatives want to acknowledge.
You need to wake up from your dream world. This is the most unbalanced President we have ever had.
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Re: David Kaiser What if he is right?

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I knew this was a hoax while I was reading this.

No one of this man's alleged educational calibre would write the way this paragraph is written.



There are so many folks who really, really HATE OUR President, without any good reason.
It's not just a matter of politics for many folks.


There is nothing that President Barack Hussein Obama could EVER do right or good in their eyes.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

When I think about it, it maddens me. So I choose not to dwell on it.
Are you kidding me? Without good reason?

1. He claims to be an American citizen yet fails to produce evidence.
2. He appoints czars to answer directly to him, without Congress approval.
3. He threw America into the highest debt it has ever experienced.
4. He wants an army larger than our military to answer only to him.
5. He crams Healthcare against the will of the people.

That is just a few reasons folks have good reason to not trust him nor like him.

He has not done ONE thing that I can think of that the marjority agrees with. He has lied constantly. He said he would have a transparent government, and yet the very Congress was refused copies of the Healthcare bill they were mandated to vote on.

He said he would post on the internet any bill for at least 7-8 days before any vote. Well that was a huge lie.

So tell me why should I trust him? He has done nothing but lie, lie and lie some more.
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