Oneness is NOT a cult!

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Well, can someone explain what Oneness doctrine is as compared to Trinitarian doctrine and are there any accepted documents that summarize the Oneness position.

semantics. lol

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

semantics. lol

That is what I say. So why would I believe a position that everyone claims is a cult even if I don't believe that the Godhead difference is a big issue. Still, I think the trinitarian position is a little more biblical.

[LadyRev]

If you truly want to know what Trinitarianism is, you really have to go back to the source...

Find an old time devout Roman Catholic, not a modern day one that believes in english spoken in Mass. Most modern day ones can't even begin to explain what the RCC really teaches about the Trinity.

There is a MAJOR difference between "Oneness" and the true doctrine of the trinity as it originated with the RCC.

Do you really think the RCC would label "Oneness" believers as HERETICS if there wasn't any significant difference in the beliefs?

As a delivered RC, it frightens me to think that people that once knew better would suddenly begin to embrace the trinity.

Its a salvational issue, not just semantics.

Sorry, I don't have the time to debate this topic. This is a hit and run. But there are plenty of resources out there. Including my own dad if you'd like to contact him. He'd be thrilled to talk to you about the trinity. He loves to debate it.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by LadyRev

If you truly want to know what Trinitarianism is, you really have to go back to the source...

Find an old time devout Roman Catholic, not a modern day one that believes in english spoken in Mass. Most modern day ones can't even begin to explain what the RCC really teaches about the Trinity.

There is a MAJOR difference between "Oneness" and the true doctrine of the trinity as it originated with the RCC.

Do you really think the RCC would label "Oneness" believers as HERETICS if there wasn't any significant difference in the beliefs?

As a delivered RC, it frightens me to think that people that once knew better would suddenly begin to embrace the trinity.

Its a salvational issue, not just semantics.

Sorry, I don't have the time to debate this topic. This is a hit and run. But there are plenty of resources out there. Including my own dad if you'd like to contact him. He'd be thrilled to talk to you about the trinity. He loves to debate it.

In which ways and to what degree does it become an issue of salvation?

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

In which ways and to what degree does it become an issue of salvation?

This is what I was going to ask, because even in Oneness circles, there are so many varying explanations of the "godhead". Which one do I have to believe to be saved?

[Sherri]

It's all very confusing. It's like there are differing ideas/levels of "oneness" and differing levels of "trinitarianism". I don't like to use either label, but I do NOT believe that there are three distinct personalities that have differing thought patterns and emotions. That, I think, is a truly tri-theistic idea. However, I do not believe that Jesus is the Father, so I guess that makes me non-oneness in some people's minds.

All I know is that I love Jesus and when I get to heaven, if there happens to be 3, I'm not going to be upset and ask to go to the other place!!!

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Sherri

It's all very confusing. It's like there are differing ideas/levels of "oneness" and differing levels of "trinitarianism". I don't like to use either label, but I do NOT believe that there are three distinct personalities that have differing thought patterns and emotions. That, I think, is a truly tri-theistic idea. However, I do not believe that Jesus is the Father, so I guess that makes me non-oneness in some people's minds.

All I know is that I love Jesus and when I get to heaven, if there happens to be 3, I'm not going to be upset and ask to go to the other place!!!

Ever hear different "oneness professionals" get into a debate? You will think the sky is purple and the oceans are pink and that one plus one equals 5 within no time. And then to think that SOME of these people put salvational status on proper oneness understanding is even more incredible.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Ever hear different "oneness professionals" get into a debate? You will think the sky is purple and the oceans are pink and that one plus one equals 5 within no time. And then to think that SOME of these people put salvational status on proper oneness understanding is even more incredible.

I thought I had a pretty good understanding of "oneness" but reading some of the arguments back and forth among "oneness" folks here on this forum, the way they speak to one another, the way they put one another down, the terms and words used, I wonder if there is such a thing as a "oneness" doctrine. Does each of us have our own private "oneness" doctrine?

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Sam

I thought I had a pretty good understanding of "oneness" but reading some of the arguments back and forth among "oneness" folks here on this forum, the way they speak to one another, the way they put one another down, the terms and words used, I wonder if there is such a thing as a "oneness" doctrine. Does each of us have our own private "oneness" doctrine?

I agree maybe 1% of the 'Oneness' movement can explain in total the full doctrine.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Sherri

All I know is that I love Jesus and when I get to heaven, if there happens to be 3, I'm not going to be upset and ask to go to the other place!!!

This is a strange thing to say, Sherri. Are you saying that you don't really know? Isaiah 9:6 is pretty plain.