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03-09-2010, 12:23 PM
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Re: Read Segraves on "letting down hair"
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Originally Posted by BobDylan
Is it accurate to say that "a woman is connected to her emotions in a way that no man is connected to, nor cannot be connected to"? Or "men, among us, have a position and authority in the church that ladies cannot obtain or fill, because of the man's unique place in the Church"? The opposite is also true, that "ladies among us, who do not cut their hair [are obedient and submitted to God's order] are entangled with angels and the wisdom and power of angels that men are not connected to and they cannot be connected to it".
I personally do not like the verbiage here... but there is nothing in this quote that describes LS as teaching magical powers in the substance of uncut hair. This is his interpretation of 1 Cor 11:10, goes along with the theme of submission and authority in the spirit realm, which both men and women have access to. Clearly some may disagree with his interpretation, and righfully so. IMO, LS interpretaion does not constitute the rhetoric that has been levelled against him, inaccurately decrying him as teaching "magical powers in the substance of uncut hair".
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Red HERRING ALERT >>> NO ONE HAS SAID AS MUCH ...
You're rambling.
The Mark Bassett strategy ... deflect, accuse, deflect, accuse, deflect ... peeters out. *puff*
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03-09-2010, 12:50 PM
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Re: Read Segraves on "letting down hair"
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Red HERRING ALERT >>> NO ONE HAS SAID AS MUCH ...
You're rambling.
The Mark Bassett strategy ... deflect, accuse, deflect, accuse, deflect ... peeters out. *puff*
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Red herring? ROFL!!!!
You're the one that made the website: "HOLY MAGIC HAIR", ....
You are the KING of red herring! lol... Actually, that's more of a strawman. You are attacking a doctrine that NO ONE HAS EVER TAUGHT. You are building up some mythical doctrine by using clips, snippets, and quotes from books, anecdotal testimonies, etc. and saying "here is the false doctrine of Holy Magic Hair, akin to divine flesh, that is being propogated by LS and the UPC.
Again, YOU are the KING of red herring AND strawman! lol...
BIG STRAWMAN!!!! ROFLMHO!!!!
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03-09-2010, 01:48 PM
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Re: Read Segraves on "letting down hair"
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Red herring? ROFL!!!!
You're the one that made the website: "HOLY MAGIC HAIR", ....
You are the KING of red herring! lol... Actually, that's more of a strawman. You are attacking a doctrine that NO ONE HAS EVER TAUGHT. You are building up some mythical doctrine by using clips, snippets, and quotes from books, anecdotal testimonies, etc. and saying "here is the false doctrine of Holy Magic Hair, akin to divine flesh, that is being propogated by LS and the UPC.
Again, YOU are the KING of red herring AND strawman! lol...
BIG STRAWMAN!!!! ROFLMHO!!!! 
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03-09-2010, 02:55 PM
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Re: Read Segraves on "letting down hair"
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Originally Posted by BobDylan
Red herring? ROFL!!!!
You're the one that made the website: "HOLY MAGIC HAIR", ....
You are the KING of red herring! lol... Actually, that's more of a strawman. You are attacking a doctrine that NO ONE HAS EVER TAUGHT. You are building up some mythical doctrine by using clips, snippets, and quotes from books, anecdotal testimonies, etc. and saying "here is the false doctrine of Holy Magic Hair, akin to divine flesh, that is being propogated by LS and the UPC.
Again, YOU are the KING of red herring AND strawman! lol...
BIG STRAWMAN!!!! ROFLMHO!!!! 
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Since a "red herring" is a non-argument that detracts from the issue, his website is not a red herring.
Since a strawman is an argument that seeks to mischaracterize someone's view and then attack it, DA's website is also not a strawman either simply because it's title is "Holy Magic Hair". He does not claim the proponents call it Holy Magic Hair.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-09-2010, 02:58 PM
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Re: Read Segraves on "letting down hair"
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Since a "red herring" is a non-argument that detracts from the issue, his website is not a red herring.
Since a strawman is an argument that seeks to mischaracterize someone's view and then attack it, DA's website is also not a strawman either simply because it's title is "Holy Magic Hair". He does not claim the proponents call it Holy Magic Hair.
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Yet he has accused Tek of immorality and that I seek to destroy the person of LS. What is good for the goose apparently is not good for the gander.
He pretends to be open-minded and seeking full context while filling in gaps left by LS ... and claims not to be engaged in marginalization ... however has accused a bishop of immorality. This accusation has support?
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03-09-2010, 03:01 PM
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Re: Read Segraves on "letting down hair"
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Yet he has accused Tek of immorality and that I seek to destroy the person of LS. What is good for the goose apparently is not good for the gander.
He pretends to be open-minded and seeking full context ... and not to be engaged in marginalization ... however has accused a bishop of immorality. This accusation has support?
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Yeah I got a laugh when he told me he was just taking an objective look
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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