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Old 04-26-2007, 09:37 AM
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What would a Jesus Name Pentecostal have to do to become lost????

Fellowshipping Trinitarians is not a problem?
Depends on what's meant by "fellowshipping." I don't believe we can't have friends or be friendly to them without constantly bashing them with the Louisville Slugger of Godhead.
FACT: I've seen people laude the great benefits of having some popular false doctrine personality preach at their meeting / Church. Jesus NEVER put up Baal worshipers to preach to the righteous.

Being a pervert(gay) is not a problem???
Where'd you get a silly idea like that? Homosexuality is a sin. As is lying, adultery, murder, etc.
FACT: I've seen people on forums - this one included - staunchly defend the perversion of homosexuality under the guise of "You can't just tell them it's wrong. They love God as much as you do" and, yes, I've seen it said on forums that they might be saved if they are living all they know.

Not going to church is not a problem????
You should go to a local church. You should get as involved in a local church as you can. While it won't save you, it will help your walk with God to be around people of like faith. Just don't spend so much time at the church that you forget to evangelize outside of it.
FACT: This was a GOOD reply. However, it's truth that there are those on this forum who think they are saved and pure in the eyes of God who (a) go nowhere to Church and (b) have no Pastor. Plenty of justification for that in their eyes. It just seems contrary to scriptures that tell us to gather together more oft, etc.

Hating preachers is not a problem??????
I don't ~hate~ the preachers . . . I just hate their sins.
FACT: You have to be on another planet if you haven't seen people here who resent and detest the ministry. A hireling would be more to their liking as they would take orders from a pew and not preach biblical absolutes.

Abandoning all standards is not a problem????
If you mean abandoning non-Biblical, mostly personal standards that most can't seem to agree on anyway (tv, sleeve length, dress shirt colors, rings, watches, jewelry, makeup, pants, etc) . . . no problem. If you mean Biblical standards, then no.

FACT: Yea and verily, have we not seen those who hail as heroes those 'cutting edge' ministries that generally just 'cut' ties with all standards? Granted some get extreme in their perception of right and wrong but the Bible DOES have some guidelines. He's sovereign and that means He makes the rules... not carnal Saints or weak kneed Pastors.

Lying on the AS is not a problem??????????
The only one's who could be lying on the AS would be ~PREACHERS!~ I'm not a licensed minister, so this doesn't relate to me, nor probably over half of the others here on AFF.

FACT: "If I sign this it says I still believe what they preach. I don't. I'll sign it anyway!" LIARS.

The ONLY thing I know that some feel that would cause an Apostolic to be lost is to keep outward standards???????????
Again, where'd you get a silly idea like that? That's about the dumbest statement I've read on here.
FACT: If you don't believe this just take a stand on any subject. Any subject doing with standards. Come on, now, say you don't believe you can be saved without certain stardards of life. You will be branded a lot of things but, generally, the first one will be a 'judge' and that is usually followed by the whole bile filled pablum of "What gives you a right to judge!" Nevermind that whole 'knowing them by their fruits' stuff. God had an 'off day' when He told them to put that one in the Bible.

Sorry, I'm with Epley on this one. Some can't be lost according to their own perverted human reasoning.


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