What is Your Baseline?

ManOfWord · #1 03-11-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Not all tradition is bad, but when it is elevated to the level of scriptural doctrine, it become heresy! (IMHO)

Michael Phelps · #2 03-11-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Not all tradition is bad, but when it is elevated to the level of scriptural doctrine, it become heresy! (IMHO)

Agreed!

This is one that that ALWAYS bothered me about the UPC - very few people were willing to discuss anything concerning standards! You even breathe that you may be questioning something, and all of the sudden you were wearing the Scarlet Letter!

It also bothers me that a preacher can get in the pulpit at a youth rally, camp meeting, general conference, etc. and preach as far right as he wanted to, and no one would banish him.

But, you let a preacher preach a bit left of center, and he was run out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered.

Inconsisten, in my opinion.

Praxeas · #3 03-11-2010, 02:16 PM

Legalism
1.strict adherence, or the principle of strict adherence, to law or prescription, esp. to the letter rather than the spirit.
2.Theology. a.the doctrine that salvation is gained through good works.

b.the judging of conduct in terms of adherence to precise laws.

TheLegalist · #4 03-11-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Legalism
1.strict adherence, or the principle of strict adherence, to law or prescription, esp. to the letter rather than the spirit.
2.Theology. a.the doctrine that salvation is gained through good works.

b.the judging of conduct in terms of adherence to precise laws.

A. Jesus is a legalist ("rather than spirit" is a bit objective and a very poor point the "spirit of the law" is the consummation of the whole understanding of the law. Letter is a rather weak point as the law is based on principle and it can be used perfectly when understood as a whole functioning body. Jesus clearly taught law and it from the letter as a whole not a itemized list)
2a. Define works and if works are defined how many view works in christianity and on this board..... Jesus is a legalist.
b. JEsus is a legalist

my point the definition is poor and needs refinement.