Noah and the Ark

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Given enough time the probabilities of the universe forming and life evolving without God are actually quite high according to leading evolutionists. Our own Big Bang may be only one in an immeasurable billions, upon multiplied billions of Big Bangs. Mathematically speaking, if it's possible for certain conditions to be suitable for life to form from natural processes... given the number of universes that may have existed and their development the odds are quite high.

...and where did those universes come from? Spontaneous Generation is so incredibly unlikely, that the earth, even at the 4 billion year old age, would need much longer to produce spontaneous generation as many times as it would have taken to produce male and female forms at the same time (in order to reproduce) in as many different species as we have.

There certainly is some "theory" in the "Theory of Evolution" but it's based on absolute fact, and I believe those "facts" work perfectly with what God has formed.

But ultimately, I won't pretend to be an expert in this. This thread has been like a college class!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by notofworks

...and where did those universes come from? Spontaneous Generation is so incredibly unlikely, that the earth, even at the 4 billion year old age, would need much longer to produce spontaneous generation as many times as it would have taken to produce male and female forms at the same time (in order to reproduce) in as many different species as we have.

There certainly is some "theory" in the "Theory of Evolution" but it's based on absolute fact, and I believe those "facts" work perfectly with what God has formed.

But ultimately, I won't pretend to be an expert in this. This thread has been like a college class!

I've read where physists claim that it's not unlikely or a miracle at all. Universes form and pass away like the weather. It's just physics they say.

As for the "facts"... they are "facts" as the evolutionists interpret them.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I've read where physists claim that it's not unlikely or a miracle at all. Universes form and pass away like the weather. It's just physics they say.

Yes, and I can find a number of experts who have determined that it was impossible the the WTC to have collapsed on 9-11...that it had to have been set with explosives and that George W. Bush was responsible. One can always locate someone with a certain point of view.

So yeah, there are physicists and experts that say a little bit of everything.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Yes, and I can find a number of experts who have determined that it was impossible the the WTC to have collapsed on 9-11...that it had to have been set with explosives and that George W. Bush was responsible. One can always locate someone with a certain point of view.

So yeah, there are physicists and experts that say a little bit of everything.

The theory of evolution in it's purest form is atheistic. It's the development of life through natural forces.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The theory of evolution in it's purest form is atheistic. It's the development of life through natural forces.

Are you saying that the Theory of Evolution as developed as a way of discrediting God? Maybe so. Point taken. But in the middle of the discrediting work, they stumbled into God's work!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Are you saying that the Theory of Evolution as developed as a way of discrediting God? Maybe so. Point taken. But in the middle of the discrediting work, they stumbled into God!

Most of the people I know who believe in evolution don't believe the Bible because they believe evolution presents fact while the Bible presents fairy tales. They rarely embrace evolution over Scripture and stumble into God.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The theory of evolution in it's purest form is atheistic. It's the development of life through natural forces.

Aquila, YOU developed from natural forces. I'll spare you the details.

Technically, was God even necessary for "YOU?" No. Just a male and a female. And they didn't even have to love each other, or you or even believe in God. They just had to have the right number of chromosomes to produce viable human offspring. From there, it was all simple chemistry.

And yet, there you are.

A marvel of creation. The only possible "YOU" that could ever exist.

Some people never find any meaning in this. Others, find all the meaning in the world.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Aquila, YOU developed from natural forces. I'll spare you the details.

Technically, was God even necessary for "YOU?" No. Just a male and a female. And they didn't even have to love each other, or you or even believe in God. They just had to have the right number of chromosomes to produce viable human offspring. From there, it was all simple chemistry.

And yet, there you are.

A marvel of creation. The only possible "YOU" that could ever exist.

Some people never find any meaning in this. Others, find all the meaning in the world.

A single blade of grass doesn't bend with the wind unless God wills it.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Aquila

A single blade of grass doesn't bend with the wind unless God wills it.

That's nice poetry and a great allegory.

Though we do understand that a high pressure weather system in one area will cause wind patterns that seek to stabilize the high pressure with lower pressure systems in other areas.

The fibrous cellular structure of the grass stalk also makes it pliable to movements such as the wind and even the movements of passing animals. The weight of a grasshopper will cause the stalk to bend.

Ultimately, it is all "in God's hands" - however you'd be pretty silly to ignore all of the other forces.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I've read where physists claim that it's not unlikely or a miracle at all. Universes form and pass away like the weather. It's just physics they say.

Quantum physics, String Theory and quatum vacuum fluctuations deserve their own thread(s). If you find time to read in this area you'll end up feeling like a believer and not an atheist at all. This is where I was torn away from my thoughts of atheism several years back.

Originally Posted by Aquila

As for the "facts"... they are "facts" as the evolutionists interpret them.

I'm probably wating my breath... but name a few.