Noah and the Ark

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

In everything that's been said here, I think it is imperative that we acknowledge this fact. Before I’m going to say what I’m going to say, please note, I'm not trying to debunk God, His plan for us, nor the absolute Truth about Him. But this is worth considering regarding the Ancient Writings we use to understand our current status in a Relationship that is virtually without a Voice to tell us, yeah, or nay.

If we had an absolute yeah, or nay, we wouldn't be on here trying to figure out the obvious problems and questions that fill the World of Faith(s).

Don't you think we should have eye witnesses that can claim an actual visual of extreme events similar to what the Bible talks about? I don't understand why the Unnatural or Bizarre of God are "Past Tense", and none of these compare to today's current events other than a catastrophe such as earthquakes or hurricanes, and other acts of nature that can be measured.

Example; If Noah or any other past person lived today, and God was ready to do an Act that would defy all reason or natural force, I'll guarantee we would catch it on Video, DVD, Digital Camera, or some other Media source to confirm IT DID HAPPEN.

It seems strange to me that none of these things happen today, in a World where the event can truly be documented and archived as either a Supernatural happening or an Act of Nature.

What could have easily happened in the past are events like the Tsunami that devastated Indonesia, or the earthquake the rocked San Francisco, people began to claim the "God Did" thing just like they do today. When New Orleans was hit by Katrina, Religious people began to put God’s label on it, but people mocked this because we have an honest and broad view of our Planet now, and accountability is far more accurate regarding Nature and her ability to destroy, and rumors or exaggerated stories fall waste to the Truth.

I remember when we studied Eclipses in school. Past civilizations plastered this event with all kind's of Myths, but later were debunked by modern science. Back then, who could argue such Myths.

NFS, I admire your guts to say these things and SOOOO many of us, me for sure, echo your thoughts. I spoke a message a few weeks ago concerning my difficulty with many things we've been taught and it was as if a FLOOD of emotions broke loose (Flood.... ). The general consensus was, "Thank you!!!......Me too!!!". But it drove NO ONE away from God and, in fact, had quite the opposite effect for many. The ability to have an honest discussion about history engages many that wouldn't listen, otherwise.

I think when we shut down statements like yours with the tried-n-true, "God said it, I believe it, that settles it", we shoot our selves in the foot and lose any chance we have with young America, and with educated America. There has to be a reason why 75% of Christians who go to college end up walking away from their faith, and please don't say, "We need more of the power o' God!!" We already have God's power and we're doing nothing with it, evangelistically speaking.

So again, thank you for your thoughts on these subjects and thanks for this thread. It has been worth the AFF membership fee!

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by notofworks

NFS, I admire your guts to say these things and SOOOO many of us, me for sure, echo your thoughts. I spoke a message a few weeks ago concerning my difficulty with many things we've been taught and it was as if a FLOOD of emotions broke loose (Flood.... ). The general consensus was, "Thank you!!!......Me too!!!". But it drove NO ONE away from God and, in fact, had quite the opposite effect for many. The ability to have an honest discussion about history engages many that wouldn't listen, otherwise.

I think when we shut down statements like yours with the tried-n-true, "God said it, I believe it, that settles it", we shoot our selves in the foot and lose any chance we have with young America, and with educated America. There has to be a reason why 75% of Christians who go to college end up walking away from their faith, and please don't say, "We need more of the power o' God!!" We already have God's power and we're doing nothing with it, evangelistically speaking.

So again, thank you for your thoughts on these subjects and thanks for this thread. It has been worth the AFF membership fee!

Thanks, Bro.

When people realize we are open, the possibilities are endless. It's when we "Can" God, the door is shut, and the heart of Faith is poisoned.

Personally, my Faith is powered by evidence. When I take a sincere look into the star lit night, God is bigger than He's ever been to me. When I see the miracle of my human body, I'm left in awe. The crashing waves of the sea can leave me breathless and grateful for a God who gives His children good gifts to behold and experience.

It seems to me, Church has, or can become a dying crutch upon which the victims are the members. We become blind guides, swallowing a camel, and straining at a gnat. All around us is God’s Glory, while superstitions and maybes decay the very fiber of the soul.

I'm sorry to say, my floundering into the unseen has left me more than embarrassed and my duty as a true Christian is stop telling people things that only create a deeper hole of mental torment.