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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
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Point blank, I am saying that I don't think the Bible supports the assertion that has been made by modern oneness pentecostals that if someone doesn't speak in tongues they are lost.
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Jason!!! Welcome to the world of grace!! It's amazing! You're on the slippery slope to my side of the fence!
By the way, I'm sorry I haven't responded to your PM. There were a bunch of things I wanted to respond to and I didn't have the time, and then I put if off, and still haven't done it. Sorry, man.
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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
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Jason!!! Welcome to the world of grace!! It's amazing! You're on the slippery slope to my side of the fence!
By the way, I'm sorry I haven't responded to your PM. There were a bunch of things I wanted to respond to and I didn't have the time, and then I put if off, and still haven't done it. Sorry, man. |
No problem. NOW, you're way down the slope, you'll have to send me postcards from your POV, because there are places on that slope I don't plan to see. 
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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
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No problem. NOW, you're way down the slope, you'll have to send me postcards from your POV, because there are places on that slope I don't plan to see. |
Oooooooo......that hurt, a little bit, Jason. Sniffle. What are you implying?
But if you're ever interested in filling up your church with people who swore they'd never, ever walk in a church, just come on down the slope and visit me. I'll help you fill it up with people who need Jesus!  One warning, though. It's not easy and it'll cost you everything!
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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
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Oooooooo......that hurt, a little bit, Jason. Sniffle. What are you implying?
But if you're ever interested in filling up your church with people who swore they'd never, ever walk in a church, just come on down the slope and visit me. I'll help you fill it up with people who need Jesus! One warning, though. It's not easy and it'll cost you everything! |
Think AI thread as for what I'm implying. I think there's a much more definite line between the world and the church than you draw.
But I totally agree with your approach on people. I remember onetime when someone made the comment about having to compete with the Baptists on trying to get people to come to church, and your response was something along the lines of "Why compete, just reach out to the drug heads, and prostititues and alchoholics and agnostics."
So true. We're not competing with each other, but we should be working together despite our differences. You and me have very distinct differences, yet I would not let it hinder our fellowship so long as our goal is the same, to bring the lost person to repentance in Jesus Christ. 
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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
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Think AI thread as for what I'm implying. I think there's a much more definite line between the world and the church than you draw.
But I totally agree with your approach on people. I remember onetime when someone made the comment about having to compete with the Baptists on trying to get people to come to church, and your response was something along the lines of "Why compete, just reach out to the drug heads, and prostititues and alchoholics and agnostics."
So true. We're not competing with each other, but we should be working together despite our differences. You and me have very distinct differences, yet I would not let it hinder our fellowship so long as our goal is the same, to bring the lost person to repentance in Jesus Christ. |
Oh come on, you're not still stuck on that stupid Adam Lambert thing, are you? Dang, why can't I like the way a guy sings? How many Christians stormed the ticket counters to go see a Ray Boltz concert? Oops, turns out he was gay. So was James Cleveland.....should we even get this list going? I just like his singing!! For crying out loud!! 
Fine, so there's a "line" between "The church" and "The World". But I don't see it as "Us vs. Them" and never will.
My offer stands, by the way, if you wanna reach broken people. But like I said....it's costs everything.
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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
NOW, I appreciate your input. And while I'm tempted to continue the dialouge with you, its getting me off track here.
I was hoping maybe the good Ev. Williams would come on here and explain my error in concluding that tongues has nothing to do with "obeying" Acts 2:38.
PS-NOW, your input is welcome on this thread.
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04-11-2010, 09:17 PM
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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
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... How many Christians stormed the ticket counters to go see a Ray Boltz concert? Oops, turns out he was gay. ...
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Well,
gay or not
or
struggling with his sexuality or not,
he was anointed and blessed many.
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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
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Well,
gay or not
or
struggling with his sexuality or not,
he was anointed and blessed many.
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Yes, he was!!
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04-12-2010, 04:23 AM
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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
I am goin to have to disagree with you on this one Jason. God and the word is very detailed ans specific about the HG and Tongues in the NT as far as being the evidence of the HG. We know peter preached it and so did paul in Acts 19th chapter.
If you are refering to the Church today though, well that is a diffrent story, I believe all who come in the church should be welcome and not be givin up on. Some try to seek out the HG and give up, but I still believe they need it just like the bible says. We have to believe the words of the apostles.
I would like to add that some churches says baptism is not neccessary for salvation and they could not be any more wrong. My goodness, If the apostles did it and Jesus says "he that believeth and is baptised shall be saved" Why not follow that and be done with it.
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Re: The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38
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Oh come on, you're not still stuck on that stupid Adam Lambert thing, are you? Dang, why can't I like the way a guy sings? How many Christians stormed the ticket counters to go see a Ray Boltz concert? Oops, turns out he was gay. So was James Cleveland.....should we even get this list going? I just like his singing!! For crying out loud!!
Fine, so there's a "line" between "The church" and "The World". But I don't see it as "Us vs. Them" and never will.
My offer stands, by the way, if you wanna reach broken people. But like I said....it's costs everything. |
Closet sin that we discover is tragic. Blatant and pompous, even flaunted sin that we "join in"... just a thought.
Hahaha.. happen to think Lambert sucks anyway.
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