The Biblical response to ACTS 2:38

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

No problem. NOW, you're way down the slope, you'll have to send me postcards from your POV, because there are places on that slope I don't plan to see.

Oooooooo......that hurt, a little bit, Jason. Sniffle. What are you implying?

But if you're ever interested in filling up your church with people who swore they'd never, ever walk in a church, just come on down the slope and visit me. I'll help you fill it up with people who need Jesus! One warning, though. It's not easy and it'll cost you everything!

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Oooooooo......that hurt, a little bit, Jason. Sniffle. What are you implying?
But if you're ever interested in filling up your church with people who swore they'd never, ever walk in a church, just come on down the slope and visit me. I'll help you fill it up with people who need Jesus! One warning, though. It's not easy and it'll cost you everything!

Think AI thread as for what I'm implying. I think there's a much more definite line between the world and the church than you draw.

But I totally agree with your approach on people. I remember onetime when someone made the comment about having to compete with the Baptists on trying to get people to come to church, and your response was something along the lines of "Why compete, just reach out to the drug heads, and prostititues and alchoholics and agnostics."

So true. We're not competing with each other, but we should be working together despite our differences. You and me have very distinct differences, yet I would not let it hinder our fellowship so long as our goal is the same, to bring the lost person to repentance in Jesus Christ.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Think AI thread as for what I'm implying. I think there's a much more definite line between the world and the church than you draw.

But I totally agree with your approach on people. I remember onetime when someone made the comment about having to compete with the Baptists on trying to get people to come to church, and your response was something along the lines of "Why compete, just reach out to the drug heads, and prostititues and alchoholics and agnostics."

So true. We're not competing with each other, but we should be working together despite our differences. You and me have very distinct differences, yet I would not let it hinder our fellowship so long as our goal is the same, to bring the lost person to repentance in Jesus Christ.

Oh come on, you're not still stuck on that stupid Adam Lambert thing, are you? Dang, why can't I like the way a guy sings? How many Christians stormed the ticket counters to go see a Ray Boltz concert? Oops, turns out he was gay. So was James Cleveland.....should we even get this list going? I just like his singing!! For crying out loud!!

Fine, so there's a "line" between "The church" and "The World". But I don't see it as "Us vs. Them" and never will.

My offer stands, by the way, if you wanna reach broken people. But like I said....it's costs everything.

[Jason B]

NOW, I appreciate your input. And while I'm tempted to continue the dialouge with you, its getting me off track here.

I was hoping maybe the good Ev. Williams would come on here and explain my error in concluding that tongues has nothing to do with "obeying" Acts 2:38.

PS-NOW, your input is welcome on this thread.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by notofworks

... How many Christians stormed the ticket counters to go see a Ray Boltz concert? Oops, turns out he was gay. ...

Well,
gay or not
or
struggling with his sexuality or not,
he was anointed and blessed many.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Sam

Well,
gay or not
or
struggling with his sexuality or not,
he was anointed and blessed many.

Yes, he was!!

[corvet786c]

I am goin to have to disagree with you on this one Jason. God and the word is very detailed ans specific about the HG and Tongues in the NT as far as being the evidence of the HG. We know peter preached it and so did paul in Acts 19th chapter.

If you are refering to the Church today though, well that is a diffrent story, I believe all who come in the church should be welcome and not be givin up on. Some try to seek out the HG and give up, but I still believe they need it just like the bible says. We have to believe the words of the apostles.

I would like to add that some churches says baptism is not neccessary for salvation and they could not be any more wrong. My goodness, If the apostles did it and Jesus says "he that believeth and is baptised shall be saved" Why not follow that and be done with it.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by corvet786c

I am goin to have to disagree with you on this one Jason. God and the word is very detailed ans specific about the HG and Tongues in the NT as far as being the evidence of the HG. We know peter preached it and so did paul in Acts 19th chapter.

If you are refering to the Church today though, well that is a diffrent story, I believe all who come in the church should be welcome and not be givin up on. Some try to seek out the HG and give up, but I still believe they need it just like the bible says. We have to believe the words of the apostles.

I would like to add that some churches says baptism is not neccessary for salvation and they could not be any more wrong. My goodness, If the apostles did it and Jesus says "he that believeth and is baptised shall be saved" Why not follow that and be done with it.

Amen and amen.

[BroGary]

Originally Posted by corvet786c

I am goin to have to disagree with you on this one Jason. God and the word is very detailed ans specific about the HG and Tongues in the NT as far as being the evidence of the HG. We know peter preached it and so did paul in Acts 19th chapter.

If you are refering to the Church today though, well that is a diffrent story, I believe all who come in the church should be welcome and not be givin up on. Some try to seek out the HG and give up, but I still believe they need it just like the bible says. We have to believe the words of the apostles.

I would like to add that some churches says baptism is not neccessary for salvation and they could not be any more wrong. My goodness, If the apostles did it and Jesus says "he that believeth and is baptised shall be saved" Why not follow that and be done with it.

Amen, the apostles clearly realized the simple truth that tongues was the initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost !

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by corvet786c

I am goin to have to disagree with you on this one Jason. God and the word is very detailed ans specific about the HG and Tongues in the NT as far as being the evidence of the HG. We know peter preached it and so did paul in Acts 19th chapter.

If you are refering to the Church today though, well that is a diffrent story, I believe all who come in the church should be welcome and not be givin up on. Some try to seek out the HG and give up, but I still believe they need it just like the bible says. We have to believe the words of the apostles.

I would like to add that some churches says baptism is not neccessary for salvation and they could not be any more wrong. My goodness, If the apostles did it and Jesus says "he that believeth and is baptised shall be saved" Why not follow that and be done with it.

Corvet,

Kudos on your disagreement, but the topic of this thread is the Biblical response to Acts 2:38. I have made the point that repentance and water baptism is the proper response to Peter's preaching in Acts 2:38. I have also referenced many others scriptures which seem to strongly indicate that once one has repented, and been baptized that thier sins are forgiven, and they are to walk in newness of life.

Now then, if someone sins are forgiven (Acts 2:38/Acts 22:16), and they are IN Christ (Gal 3:27), and have newness of life (Romans 6:1-4), please explain how the same, which HAVE obeyed Acts 2:38 can be considered lost simply because they don't speak in tongues.

Also, do you make the assumption that ALL 3,000 who were baptized in Acts 2 spoke in tongues (at the time of conversion) ?