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Old 05-11-2010, 03:35 PM
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Re: Did the churches in Asia turn from Paul?

In fact, here is a good lesson in what we mean by looking at the context and not one verse

2Ti 1:15 You are aware that all who are in Asia turned away from me, among whom are Phygelus and Hermogenes.
2Ti 1:16 May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, for he often refreshed me and was not ashamed of my chains,
2Ti 1:17 but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me earnestly and found me--
2Ti 1:18 may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day!--and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.
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Re: Did the churches in Asia turn from Paul?

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In fact, here is a good lesson in what we mean by looking at the context and not one verse

2Ti 1:15 You are aware that all who are in Asia turned away from me, among whom are Phygelus and Hermogenes.
2Ti 1:16 May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, for he often refreshed me and was not ashamed of my chains,
2Ti 1:17 but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me earnestly and found me--
2Ti 1:18 may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day!--and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.
that doesn't though have anything to do with whether the churches turned away. Paul is talking about a person who has done great service to him. Just as a whole church may leave a pastor out to dry some would come and help him no matter the overall abandoning of the pastor by the church toward his teachings or whatever reason. Thus Onesiphorus did good toward Paul. We also see Paul escaping from them

2Ti 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me great harm; the Lord will repay him according to his deeds.
2Ti 4:15 Beware of him yourself, for he strongly opposed our message.
2Ti 4:16 At my first defense no one came to stand by me, but all deserted me. May it not be charged against them!
2Ti 4:17 But the Lord stood by me and strengthened me, so that through me the message might be fully proclaimed and all the Gentiles might hear it. So I was rescued from the lion's mouth.

This could be a reference to the Jews(lions mouth) view Paul as teaching false doctrine. THus why Paul says "the message fully proclaimed and ALL the GEtniles might hear it. This could have been a revolt toward Paul like he was experiencing in Galatia.

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