Evangelist Benincasa Said

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by pelathais

What about the name of Yeshua? Or Iesous?

Those names for the Almighty God manifest in flesh would work for anyone alive who speaks their respective languages today.

The Name of Jesus is not "the magic name".

It's faith in His Name, built upon a certain level of accurate knowledge about Him.

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Those names for the Almighty God manifest in flesh would work for anyone alive who speaks their respective languages today.

The Name of Jesus is not "the magic name".

It's faith in His Name, built upon a certain level of accurate knowledge about Him.

AMEN AND AMEN! People seem to always try to get away from FAITH. It is FAITH in His name that does the work, not right translation or original language. Such other issues are fleshly.

[Evang.Benincasa]

The main point is this, that the name of Jesus/Iesous/Iesus has been the longest in use. My point was, that the name of Iesous appears in Septuagint/LXX 200 years before the birth of Christ.

It would of been acceptable to the Diaspora to use the name, and even name their children with the Greek version of Hebrew and Aramaic names.
As we know, that the Jews during the time of Jesus, had no problem naming their children Greek names, hence, Andrew and Philip. Not saying that Jesus used the Greek, or Latin, just saying that the Yeshua, and Yehoshua and their other word jumbled name variations shouldn't be substituted for what we already have.

The name of Jesus is a direct translation of the Latin, and appeared over 1200years prior to its usage in the KJV Bible. The Greek Iesous is the base of the Latin Iesus, and therefore it shares its history among the Jews of the Diaspora.

So, let us continue to use the tried and true name that is above every name, Jesus.

With over 2,000 years and running strong!


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The main point is this, that the name of Jesus/Iesous/Iesus has been the longest in use. My point was, that the name of Iesous appears in Septuagint/LXX 200 years before the birth of Christ.

It would of been acceptable to the Diaspora to use the name, and even name their children with the Greek version of Hebrew and Aramaic names.
As we know, that the Jews during the time of Jesus, had no problem naming their children Greek names, hence, Andrew and Philip. Not saying that Jesus used the Greek, or Latin, just saying that the Yeshua, and Yehoshua and their other word jumbled name variations shouldn't be substituted for what we already have.

The name of Jesus is a direct translation of the Latin, and appeared over 1200years prior to its usage in the KJV Bible. The Greek Iesous is the base of the Latin Iesus, and therefore it shares its history among the Jews of the Diaspora.

So, let us continue to use the tried and true name that is above every name, Jesus.

With over 2,000 years and running strong!


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

The problem is an "assumption." Saying that "Jesus" MIGHT possibly have been used is completely different that having enough evidence to conclude that it WAS used. It is highly likely that he was called Yeshua. I would really have a hard time believing that the angel told Mary to call his name Jesus instead of the Hebrew Yeshua. Again, we weren't there but the evidence seems to point in that direction.

I use the name of Jesus and not Yeshua, but I don't have a problem with someone who leaned toward Yeshua. I know some folks who do. I know who they mean and I'm sure God does as well.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

The problem is an "assumption." Saying that "Jesus" MIGHT possibly have been used is completely different that having enough evidence to conclude that it WAS used.

Where did I say the above? What I said was facts, I said that the Greek usage of the name was 200 years before the birth of Christ. The name Joshua appears as Iesous throughout the LXX. Fact, the entire New Testament was totally written in Greek, and the name of Joshua appears as Iesous.

Acts 7:45

Col 4:11

Hebrews 4:8

The name of Joshua appears as Iesous, just as it does in the LXX.

Yehoshua and Yeshua? Which one should we pick? When was the Masoretic text compiled? Did Mary speak Hebrew? Didn't she speak Aramaic? If that be the case wouldn't His name been Yesha? You see you have no idea. Yet, what I'm talking about is that Greek was in usage with the Diaspora Jews 200 years before Christ's birth, and 2000 years after His birth Greek and Latin perserved His name. All the New Testament books were written in Greek and quoted LXX, during the middle to late first century. That is fact, and His name and Joshua's name appear as Iesous? over 1200 years, both names would appear as Iesus? Anyone see the pattern here? Did we have Yesha, Yeshua, Yehoshua, or any of the other word jumbles perserved for us in tact? Again, the Diaspora Jews had no problem at all naming their children Hellenized Hebrew names. Andrew and Philip don't even have Hebrew names, both names are flat out Greek.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

It is highly likely that he was called Yeshua.

Some scholars would disagree, and say its Yehoshua which more HIGHLY LIKELY. Which is my main POINT! Jesus is the most HISTORIC, Therefore it wins the door prize. You want to play guessing games? Why? The names you advocate have been debated over for years, yet the name in Greek and Latin win hands down.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I would really have a hard time believing that the angel told Mary to call his name Jesus instead of the Hebrew Yeshua.

Ok, let me try to say this again. MOW, you have NO CLUE what the angel told Mary to name Jesus. They spoke three languages, Aramaic the language of the rural people, Greek, the language of commerce, Latin, the language of Roman occupation. As far as what name the angel spoke to Mary, it would be a coin toss. It may of been Yesha, who knows. Yet, that is not our discussion here. I am talking about the one that was used 200 years prior to His birth, and since it was written by Diaspora Rabbis, (70 of them) the name was in usage far longer before. This name was handed down in Greek and Latin, and we used the Latin form today. No looking, no guessing about how highly likely something was, but a name that was recorded during the time of the apostles and the early church, and was handed down to us today.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Again, we weren't there but the evidence seems to point in that direction.

Seems, maybe, might be, could be, and should be.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I use the name of Jesus and not Yeshua, but I don't have a problem with someone who leaned toward Yeshua.

I educate, people are grateful, and go back to using "Jesus."

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I know some folks who do. I know who they mean and I'm sure God does as well.

Same thing the titles folk say.

God knows, God knows that you don't care.