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05-10-2010, 09:48 PM
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
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05-11-2010, 06:14 AM
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
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Yes I am aware of this but would you agree the s is not part of the actual name?
Was Jeremiahs name really Jeremias and so forth?
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"Jeremiah's" name in Greek was something like "Jeremias." If someone was reading from his book, that is pretty much how they would say it, though not with the hard "J" sound that we use in English.
If you were speaking directly to Jesus (or anyone with that same name) in the Greek language then you would say, "Iesou" without the "s." If the question is, What do you say in baptism; then that again depends upon who you are addressing. If you are proclaiming to a crowd of witnesses that the baptism is in "Jesus' name..." then you say it differently than if you were speaking in prayer to the Lord Himself.
Either way, the declensions are all seen as being the same word/noun or name.
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05-11-2010, 06:31 AM
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
I know healings happen in Jesus name
Devils cast out in Jesus name
works for me.
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05-11-2010, 07:17 AM
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
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I know healings happen in Jesus name
Devils cast out in Jesus name
works for me.
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What about the name of Yeshua? Or Iesous?
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05-11-2010, 07:25 AM
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
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What about the name of Yeshua? Or Iesous?
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Not in the know, but do know Jesus name works. Obviously, they didn't speak english back then, so how ever they said it worked for them too.
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05-11-2010, 07:36 AM
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
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I know healings happen in Jesus name
Devils cast out in Jesus name
works for me.
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Not in the know, but do know Jesus name works. Obviously, they didn't speak english back then, so how ever they said it work for them too.
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05-11-2010, 06:11 PM
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
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What about the name of Yeshua? Or Iesous?
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Those names for the Almighty God manifest in flesh would work for anyone alive who speaks their respective languages today.
The Name of Jesus is not "the magic name".
It's faith in His Name, built upon a certain level of accurate knowledge about Him.
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05-12-2010, 09:35 AM
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
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Those names for the Almighty God manifest in flesh would work for anyone alive who speaks their respective languages today.
The Name of Jesus is not "the magic name".
It's faith in His Name, built upon a certain level of accurate knowledge about Him.
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AMEN AND AMEN! People seem to always try to get away from FAITH. It is FAITH in His name that does the work, not right translation or original language. Such other issues are fleshly.
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05-12-2010, 05:32 PM
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
The main point is this, that the name of Jesus/Iesous/Iesus has been the longest in use. My point was, that the name of Iesous appears in Septuagint/LXX 200 years before the birth of Christ.
It would of been acceptable to the Diaspora to use the name, and even name their children with the Greek version of Hebrew and Aramaic names.
As we know, that the Jews during the time of Jesus, had no problem naming their children Greek names, hence, Andrew and Philip. Not saying that Jesus used the Greek, or Latin, just saying that the Yeshua, and Yehoshua and their other word jumbled name variations shouldn't be substituted for what we already have.
The name of Jesus is a direct translation of the Latin, and appeared over 1200years prior to its usage in the KJV Bible. The Greek Iesous is the base of the Latin Iesus, and therefore it shares its history among the Jews of the Diaspora.
So, let us continue to use the tried and true name that is above every name, Jesus.
With over 2,000 years and running strong!
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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Re: Evangelist Benincasa Said
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The main point is this, that the name of Jesus/Iesous/Iesus has been the longest in use. My point was, that the name of Iesous appears in Septuagint/LXX 200 years before the birth of Christ.
It would of been acceptable to the Diaspora to use the name, and even name their children with the Greek version of Hebrew and Aramaic names.
As we know, that the Jews during the time of Jesus, had no problem naming their children Greek names, hence, Andrew and Philip. Not saying that Jesus used the Greek, or Latin, just saying that the Yeshua, and Yehoshua and their other word jumbled name variations shouldn't be substituted for what we already have.
The name of Jesus is a direct translation of the Latin, and appeared over 1200years prior to its usage in the KJV Bible. The Greek Iesous is the base of the Latin Iesus, and therefore it shares its history among the Jews of the Diaspora.
So, let us continue to use the tried and true name that is above every name, Jesus.
With over 2,000 years and running strong!
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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The problem is an "assumption." Saying that "Jesus" MIGHT possibly have been used is completely different that having enough evidence to conclude that it WAS used. It is highly likely that he was called Yeshua. I would really have a hard time believing that the angel told Mary to call his name Jesus instead of the Hebrew Yeshua. Again, we weren't there but the evidence seems to point in that direction.
I use the name of Jesus and not Yeshua, but I don't have a problem with someone who leaned toward Yeshua. I know some folks who do. I know who they mean and I'm sure God does as well.
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