Why am I labeled backslid and unusable by God

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Knowledge and existentially confronting it are not the same.

Why the exasperation, Ferd?

because people that dont own their own actions exasperates me.


and when someone shows up on this forum and takes shots at the other side (when those shots arent legit) it really exasperates me

and when someone claims to have been in leadership in a Conservative church then cliams they are "shocked" at the reaction of the Cons they left behind, little read lights start flashing "warning! warning! warning!"

I really have a terrible problem Jeffery.... I think people should own their own actions... I do...

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Ferd

because people that dont own their own actions exasperates me.


and when someone shows up on this forum and takes shots at the other side (when those shots arent legit) it really exasperates me

and when someone claims to have been in leadership in a Conservative church then cliams they are "shocked" at the reaction of the Cons they left behind, little read lights start flashing "warning! warning! warning!"

I really have a terrible problem Jeffery.... I think people should own their own actions... I do...

Have you no mercy?

Owning to his actions? Explain. Let's hypothetically say you aren't a cynic with the guy and you actually believe him. He's been in this church since knee high to a grass hopper. He becomes a "leader" (could be Sunday School teacher, youth leader -- anything). He realizes some things don't add up and he leaves. He's been part of this culture his entire life but only now is on the receiving end of pure ungodliness. He is shocked.

You come along and yell at his to "own up?"

Lovely.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Have you no mercy?

Owning to his actions? Explain. Let's hypothetically say you aren't a cynic with the guy and you actually believe him. He's been in this church since knee high to a grass hopper. He becomes a "leader" (could be Sunday School teacher, youth leader -- anything). He realizes some things don't add up and he leaves. He's been part of this culture his entire life but only now is on the receiving end of pure ungodliness. He is shocked.

You come along and yell at his to "own up?"

Lovely.

pssst.... been there done that got the t-shirt.

When you leave, expect the hit. You leave because you BELIEVE that the change in biblical and necessary. But you take responsiblity for yourself.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Ferd

pssst.... been there done that got the t-shirt.

When you leave, expect the hit. You leave because you BELIEVE that the change in biblical and necessary. But you take responsiblity for yourself.

psst. Got the t-shirt as well.

If you've truly been there, you should show more mercy.

This isn't about "taking responsibility." How is it? He's shocked at relationships he thought were strong slip away and turn into judgemental sound bytes. What's so hard to understand about that?